While by asking/suggesting for a simpler way to delete a message my
intention was never to make list-admins heads of censorship in their
group.   Even whether you provide the ability only to the site admin
(instead of list admin) the need seriously exists in cases like;

- legal requirements (you get legal notice or even sued)
- poster choice (the poster realizes that he forgot his phone number in
the signature)
- offensive/racist above and beyond a lists code of conduct (all lists
can/should not be moderated)
- factually wrong (for example in a tech support list someone blurts
something factually wrong)

Hope this clarifies my original question.  Simply because bits are
almost free we should not be interested in filling more and more of them
to justify our existence ;)

Thanks,
Omer.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: LISTSERV site administrators' forum
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of A. Harry Williams
> Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2004 4:22 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: How to remove single message from archives?
>
>
> On Tue, 4 May 2004 18:53:58 -0400 Douglas Palmer said:
> >On Tue, 4 May 2004, Rich Greenberg wrote:
> >
> >> } easier web-based method of doing it would be beneficial.
> I can see
> >> the
> >>
> >> Here i disagree.  Leave it difficult and obscure.  That way a
> >> listowner will think twice about the deletion and decide its not
> >> worth the effort.
> >
> >
> >How about a compromise? Actually, the ideal solution here
> (it is a rare
> >need, but a real pain because when we need to do it, it can
> be of the
> >highest priority) would be the ability to enter the MSG-ID
> on the list
> >management page somewhere, have it pull up the possible matching
> >message and allow me to check off the ones I want deleted from the
> >archive and the current digest. It would then ask for verification,
> >send a message to the list-owner with a notice that it had been done
> >and by whom and then, finally, remove the offending message(s).
>
> Given all this work, I'd rather have the "deleted" message
> replaced with a message that say "Message here deleted on
> date by userid@node"
>
> There are legitimate reasons to need to delete a message at
> times. The easier it is to do to, the more likely it is to
> happen.  We currently use some lists as audit logs, and so we
> don't want the list owners to delete items.  At a minimum, we
> need a record that the deletion occured
>
> >
> >
> >-- DCP
> /ahw
>