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Guenter Roeck <[log in to unmask]>
Thu, 8 May 1997 09:49:39 -0700
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If the intention is to prevent spamming I fully agree with AOL.
IMHO, if an existing standard is broken it should not be used,
but replaced with a better approach, even if it is not standardized.

Guenter

At 12:34 PM 5/8/97 -0400, [log in to unmask] wrote:
>On Thu, 08 May 1997 11:28:14 EST, you said:
>> We run the MUSIC operating system as a guest under VM.  Today I received
>> the following reply when trying to send email from MUSIC via VM SMTP to
>> AOL.
>>
>> VM.NMU.EDU unable to deliver following mail to recipient(s):
>>     <[log in to unmask]>
>> VM.NMU.EDU received negative reply:
>> 553 <@VM.NMU.EDU:[log in to unmask]>... Source routed envelope sender
>>     rejected (See RFC 822, section 6.2.7)
>>
>> Has anyone else seen anything like this?  It was working last week and
>> its my "belief" that I didn't change anything...
>
>(Am CC'ing this reply to several places - apparently more people are
>complaining now....)
>
>AOL has decided   to  unilaterally violate RFC1123,  sections  5.2.19,
>which  requires    accepting  source    routes,    in  favor   of   an
>as-yet-still-draft future standard  that permits rejecting  these.  We
>have already contacted AOL, and they seem to feel that the language in
>RFC1123, section 5.2.6 which permits simply ignoring the source route,
>is insufficient.
>
>We   have been informed by   Brad Knowles of   AOL  that they consider
>section 7.5 of draft-ietf-drums-smtpupd-04.txt (still in draft status)
>to be more important than RFC1123, which is in full standard status.
>
>Quite  frankly, this is  no way  to  run an  Internet.  Once the DRUMS
>document moves  up to Proposed  Standard  status or  so, I'll  support
>AOL's right to implement it.   But disregarding the standards in favor
>of a draft  is no way to  do business,  even if  you do have  the most
>market share.
>
>--
>                               Valdis Kletnieks
>                               Computer Systems Senior Engineer
>                               Virginia Tech
>
>
>
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