Eric,
I think it was a case of the admin retiring. I am told that L-Soft has a
complete backup copy of the archives for Histarch, and that ASU is going to
try and retrieve it. Is there any way I can get a copy? I think that I will
have to move the list to H-Net because ASU has changed its policy (they
want someone on campus to manage it).
It will be a real shame if this list dies, as it is the main list for the
entire field of historical archaeology.
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On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 9:56 PM, Eric Thomas <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> While this used to be a problem in the past, I have not heard of a
> university dropping LISTSERV for cost reasons in years. The only real
> attrition is when a university decides to go all Google Applications
> because it is free open and the application of choice in the corporate
> world, giving students a boost in their coming careers (in an alternate
> reality where the corporate world has abandoned Windows and Office 365 even
> though Google Applications is not even free for them), and everything is
> moved to Google Groups as part of the deal. A less frequent reason is that
> the LISTSERV admin has just retired, although in most cases we can then
> transfer the service to our hosting servers.
>
>
>
> Eric
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: LISTSERV List Owners' Forum [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> On Behalf Of Russell Hunt
> Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2017 18:07
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: HISTARCH list has vanished completely
>
>
>
> A couple of reflections from a long-time, but not especially knowledgable,
> listowner. I'm surprised about ASU here; my impression is that they've been
> a pretty reliable host for academic lists for a long time. On the other
> hand . . . many universities seem to have come to the conclusion that
> listservs are, um, old hat, and expensive, when people could use more
> trendy social media. That seems to me flat wrong, since in general "social
> media" assume that if it's more than 24 hours old it's not only
> forgettable, but hey presto! already forgotten. A substantial number have
> decided, or are deciding, that LISTSERV is too expensive to justify for the
> on-campus use it's getting. I've had to move one smallish group to
> GoogleGroups, and I know of another academic listserv that had to do the
> same because the host university dropped LISTSERV. The result has been that
> discussion has been essentially extinguished by the participation
> limitations of GoogleGroups. If you have to move this list off ASU, I wish
> you luck looking for a suitable host: it's not going to be easy. LISTSERV
> isn't, and shouldn't be, cheap.
>
>
>
> -- Russ
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: LISTSERV List Owners' Forum [mailto:[log in to unmask]
> <[log in to unmask]>] On Behalf Of Charles Clausen
>
> Sent: February-16-17 3:46 PM
>
> To: [log in to unmask]
>
> Subject: Re: HISTARCH list has vanished completely
>
>
>
> LSoft's ListPlex service, which provides hosting, is here:
>
>
>
> http://www.lsoft.com/products/listplex.asp
>
>
>
> This is for paying customers. Historically, they have donated hosting to a
> few non-profit orgs (I don't know if they are still taking on new groups):
>
>
>
> http://community.lsoft.com/scripts/wa-LSOFTDONATIONS.exe?INDEX
>
>
>
> Not listed here is a group of cancer lists to which they donated services
> back in 1996. The non-profit org under which they were organized has pretty
> much dissolved over the years, but LSoft continues to host several of the
> lists, some of which are very active.
>
>
>
> Charles Clausen
>
> ppml-info.org
>
>
>
> On Thu, 16 Feb 2017 09:21:25 -0700, Anita Cohen-Williams <
> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>
>
> >In the meantime, if I can get the list back and all the archives, I
>
> >think I need to move it to another host. Does L-Soft host lists?
>
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