On Mon, 30 Oct 23:32, Mentor Cana <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> Can someone tell me what is going on below! It is a loop.
Skip to the "bottom", and work your way to the "top".
> It seems to me that there is some problem with the listserv at UBVM.BITNET
> (ubvm.cc.buffalo.edu).
No, LISTSERV is working correctly, i.e., receiving and distributing messages.
> I own two lists there (ALBANIAN and ALBANEWS), and I got the some problem
> on both of them in the past 1-2 hours. Up to now I've received about
> 1000 error messages from owner-albanian and owner-albanews.
>
> So, considering that I have a problem on both lists, seems to me that the
> problem is with the listserv.
You've got *TWO* subscriber-related problems:
- one subscriber is "bouncing" all ALBANEWS messages back to the list,
creating a "loop",
- a different subscriber's E-mail system seems to have detected
the "duplicate" postings, and is refusing to pass them to the subscriber.
Cure the first problem, and the second should go away.
>---------- Forwarded message ----------
>Date: Mon, 30 Oct 1995 22:26:47 -0500
>From: L-Soft list server at UBVM (1.8b) <[log in to unmask]>
>To: Mentor Cana <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: ALBANEWS: error report from LL.MIT.EDU
33. MAILER@UBVM passed LISTSERV's report about the non-delivery to you.
>The enclosed mail file has been identified as a delivery error for list
>ALBANEWS because it was sent to the reserved 'owner-albanews' mailbox.
>
>------------------------------ Message in error -------------------------------
>Received: from UBVM (NJE origin SMTP@UBVM) by UBVM.CC.BUFFALO.EDU (LMail
> V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 0178; Mon, 30 Oct 1995 22:00:13 -0500
32. SMTP@UBVM passed the message to [log in to unmask]
>Received: from ll.mit.edu by UBVM.cc.buffalo.edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R3) with TCP;
> Mon, 30 Oct 95 21:59:58 EST
31. Non-delivery message sent to UBVM.
>Received: by ll.mit.edu (4.1/LL-1.3) id AB16624; Mon, 30 Oct 95 21:56:44 EST
>Date: Mon, 30 Oct 95 21:56:44 EST
>From: [log in to unmask] (Mail Delivery Subsystem)
>Subject: Returned mail: Service unavailable
>Message-Id: <[log in to unmask]>
>To: <@UBVM.CC.BUFFALO.EDU:[log in to unmask]>
30. The 'mailer-daemon' at 'LL.MIT.EDU' reported the non-delivery
to the "owner" of ALBANEWS.
>
> ----- Transcript of session follows -----
>Connected to atc.ll.mit.edu:
>>>> DATA
><<< 554 <[log in to unmask]>... Mail loop detected
> 554 howells_dorothy@atc.ll.mit.edu... Service unavailable
29. Bad news! That subscriber cannot receive E-mail.
> ----- Unsent message follows -----
>Received: by ll.mit.edu (4.1/LL-1.3) id AA16610; Mon, 30 Oct 95 21:53:54 EST
>Return-Path: <@UBVM.CC.BUFFALO.EDU:[log in to unmask]>
>Received: from UBVM.cc.buffalo.edu by ll.mit.edu (4.1/LL-1.3) id AA16590; Mon,
> 30 Oct 95 21:52:21 EST
28. SMTP@UBVM sent a copy of the re-posting to a subscriber at 'LL.MIT.EDU'.
>Received: from UBVM.CC.BUFFALO.EDU by UBVM.cc.buffalo.edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R3)
> with BSMTP id 8091; Mon, 30 Oct 95 21:46:40 EST
27. [log in to unmask]
>Received: from UBVM.CC.BUFFALO.EDU (NJE origin LISTSERV@UBVM) by
> UBVM.CC.BUFFALO.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 0226; Mon,
> 30 Oct 1995 21:11:48 -0500
26. [log in to unmask]
>Received: from UBVM.CC.BUFFALO.EDU by UBVM.CC.BUFFALO.EDU (LISTSERV release
> 1.8b) with NJE id 0905 for [log in to unmask]; Mon, 30 Oct
> 1995 21:11:39 -0500
25. [log in to unmask]
>Received: from UBVM (NJE origin SMTP@UBVM) by UBVM.CC.BUFFALO.EDU (LMail
> V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 7439; Mon, 30 Oct 1995 20:00:06 -0500
24. [log in to unmask]
>Received: from pop.stud.let.ruu.nl by UBVM.cc.buffalo.edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R3)
> with TCP; Mon, 30 Oct 95 19:59:52 EST
23. Back to UBVM.
>Received: by pop.stud.let.ruu.nl id AA10083 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for Multiple
> recipients of list ALBANEWS <[log in to unmask]>); Tue, 31
> Oct 1995 02:01:04 +0100
22. Routed back to ALBANEWS.
>Received: from hearn.nic.surfnet.nl by pop.stud.let.ruu.nl with SMTP id
> AA10069 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for <[log in to unmask]>); Tue, 31 Oct 1995
> 02:00:57 +0100
21. Delivered to 'lets1321'.
>Received: from HEARN.NIC.SURFNET.NL by HEARN.nic.SURFnet.nl (IBM VM SMTP V2R2)
> with BSMTP id 6656; Tue, 31 Oct 95 02:01:21 +0100
20. [log in to unmask]
>Received: from NIC.SURFNET.NL (NJE origin LISTSERV@HEARN) by
> HEARN.NIC.SURFNET.NL (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 9932; Tue, 31
> Oct 1995 02:01:20 +0100
19. [log in to unmask]
>Received: from UBVM.CC.BUFFALO.EDU by UBVM.CC.BUFFALO.EDU (LISTSERV release
> 1.8b) with NJE id 4882 for [log in to unmask]; Mon, 30 Oct
> 1995 19:59:25 -0500
18. LISTSERV@UBVM received it, on behalf of ALBANEWS.
>Received: from UBVM (NJE origin SMTP@UBVM) by UBVM.CC.BUFFALO.EDU (LMail
> V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 0775; Mon, 30 Oct 1995 18:06:14 -0500
17. MAILER@UBVM received it.
>Received: from pop.stud.let.ruu.nl by UBVM.cc.buffalo.edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R3)
> with TCP; Mon, 30 Oct 95 18:06:03 EST
16. SMTP@UBVM received the "bounced" re-posting.
>Received: by pop.stud.let.ruu.nl id AA06752 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for Multiple
> recipients of list ALBANEWS <[log in to unmask]>); Tue, 31
> Oct 1995 00:07:15 +0100
15. The re-posting was re-addressed to ALBANEWS.
>Received: from hearn.nic.surfnet.nl by pop.stud.let.ruu.nl with SMTP id
> AA06740 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for <[log in to unmask]>); Tue, 31 Oct 1995
> 00:07:05 +0100
14. The re-posting was delivered to 'lets1321'.
>Received: from HEARN.NIC.SURFNET.NL by HEARN.nic.SURFnet.nl (IBM VM SMTP V2R2)
> with BSMTP id 9942; Tue, 31 Oct 95 00:07:09 +0100
13. SMTP@HEARN received the re-posting.
>Received: from NIC.SURFNET.NL (NJE origin LISTSERV@HEARN) by
> HEARN.NIC.SURFNET.NL (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 4587; Tue, 31
> Oct 1995 00:07:06 +0100
12. LISTSERV@UBVM enlisted LISTSERV@HEARN to distribute the re-posting.
>Received: from UBVM.CC.BUFFALO.EDU by UBVM.CC.BUFFALO.EDU (LISTSERV release
> 1.8b) with NJE id 5735 for [log in to unmask]; Mon, 30 Oct
> 1995 17:58:25 -0500
11. LISTSERV@UBVM received the message addressed to ALBANEWS.
Since the 'Sender:' tag was retained from the original distribution,
LISTSERV determined that an "editor" authorized the posting.
>Received: from UBVM (NJE origin SMTP@UBVM) by UBVM.CC.BUFFALO.EDU (LMail
> V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 5663; Mon, 30 Oct 1995 15:19:00 -0500
10. MAILER@UBVM received it.
>Received: from pop.stud.let.ruu.nl by UBVM.cc.buffalo.edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R3)
> with TCP; Mon, 30 Oct 95 15:18:53 EST
9. SMTP@UBVM received the posting.
>Received: by pop.stud.let.ruu.nl id AA00447 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for Multiple
> recipients of list ALBANEWS <[log in to unmask]>); Mon, 30
> Oct 1995 21:20:05 +0100
8. The SMTP-server at POP.STUD.LET.RUU.NL sent the posting back to ALBANEWS.
Why? Did the recipient initiate this?
>Received: from hearn.nic.surfnet.nl by pop.stud.let.ruu.nl with SMTP id
> AA00435 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for <[log in to unmask]>); Mon, 30 Oct 1995
> 21:19:59 +0100
7. The SMTP-server at POP.STUD.LET.RUU.NL received the copy
addressed to [log in to unmask]
>Received: from HEARN.NIC.SURFNET.NL by HEARN.nic.SURFnet.nl (IBM VM SMTP V2R2)
> with BSMTP id 8964; Mon, 30 Oct 95 21:20:19 +0100
6. SMTP@HEARN received a copy of the posting.
>Received: from NIC.SURFNET.NL (NJE origin LISTSERV@HEARN) by
> HEARN.NIC.SURFNET.NL (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 6573; Mon, 30
> Oct 1995 21:20:19 +0100
5. LISTSERV@UBVM enlisted LISTSERV@HEARN to "distribute" the posting
to various European-based subscribers.
>Received: from UBVM.CC.BUFFALO.EDU by UBVM.CC.BUFFALO.EDU (LISTSERV release
> 1.8b) with NJE id 0047 for [log in to unmask]; Mon, 30 Oct
> 1995 15:18:20 -0500
4. LISTSERV@UBVM received it.
>Received: from UBVM (NJE origin SMTP@UBVM) by UBVM.CC.BUFFALO.EDU (LMail
3. The MAILER@UBVM (running the "LMail" software) received it.
> V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 6676; Mon, 30 Oct 1995 13:15:58 -0500
>Received: from relay-4.mail.demon.net by UBVM.cc.buffalo.edu (IBM VM SMTP
> V2R3) with TCP; Mon, 30 Oct 95 13:15:38 EST
2. The SMTP-server at UBVM received it.
>Received: from post.demon.co.uk by relay-4.mail.demon.net id sg.ac12424; 30
> Oct 95 17:40 GMT
>Received: from relay-4.mail.demon.net by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa27030;
> 30 Oct 95 17:37 GMT
>X-Mailer: FIMail V0.9d
>X-User: Alpha Test Version Of FI-Mail, DisWin 1.5C:\WINSOCK\WINDIS
>Lines: 491
>Approved-By: KIC - London <[log in to unmask]>
>X-To: [log in to unmask]
>X-Parsed-By: mail_vrfy2 1
>Approved-By: AlbaNews - Albanian News List <[log in to unmask]>
>Message-Id: <[log in to unmask]>
>Newsgroups: bit.listserv.albanian
>Date: Mon, 30 Oct 1995 17:35:45 GMT
>Reply-To: AlbaNews - Albanian News List <[log in to unmask]>,
> KIC - London <[log in to unmask]>
>Sender: AlbaNews - Albanian News List <[log in to unmask]>
>From: KIC - London <[log in to unmask]>
1. This ID sent E-mail to [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Shqip:Informatori ditor nr. 1196
>To: Multiple recipients of list ALBANEWS
> <[log in to unmask]>
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