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Ed Price <[log in to unmask]>
Fri, 1 Jan 1999 20:03:38 -0500
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Ben - Thanks for the warning however I have to report that the command -

 SET * NOMAIL NOPOST FOR *@hotmail.com ( with prostate for *) did not work
for me as an owner of a ACOR ML .  Neither did individual SET PROSTATE
NOMAIL and SET PROSTATE NOPOST for *@hotmail.com - work and I was finally
reduced to individual set nomail and set nopost messages.  What did I miss
or where did I go wrong.

Finally who will give the signal that - hotmail - has solved its problems
so we may return these subscribers to access to our ML and with what
command other than individually as I found necessary to isolate them.

Best

Ed -  PPML
PS - None of the co-owners has or had a HOTMAIL account.

At 04:43 PM 12/30/1998 -0700, Ben Parker wrote:
>As many of you may know, there continue to be serious email problems with all
>hotmail.com addresses subscribed to email lists.  Briefly, there are 2
>problems.  One is misdirected mail, where a hotmail.com user receives mail in
>their mailbox from several or many other lists to which they are not
>subscribed.  The second and related problem is that the user may receive many
>multiple copies of some of these same messages.
>
>Both of these problems are occurring internally at hotmail and are NOT caused
>by any faulty mail delivery from *.lsoft.com hosts or *.stjohns.edu or other
>affected host sites.  We have received many end-user complaints but since the
>problem is internal to hotmail.com we cannot accomplish a 'fix'.  The Hotmail
>technical staff are aware of the problem and are working on it.  Hotmail users
>should address complaints to these addresses:
>
> [log in to unmask]
> [log in to unmask]
> [log in to unmask]
> [log in to unmask]
>
>However there are privacy and security issues involved.  Some List Owners use
>hotmail.com accounts to administer their lists.  We have received reports that
>in some cases list owner and/or list member passwords have been exposed in
>some of these misdirected mail messages.  Also we have reports from a number
>of lists which normally discuss highly personal and private matters that their
>messages are going astray as well.  These exposures are very unfortunate.
>
>Because of our concern for these matters, L-Soft recommends that all List
>Owners take the following steps.  We also ask all Site Administrators to pass
>along this information to their List Owners as applicable.
>
>1.  Do not use a hotmail.com account to administer your list.  There is a risk
>that your password could be compromised.  Use another email account.
>
>2.  If you already have used a hotmail account for list administration you
>should use the PW RESET command to cancel your existing password associated
>with that hotmail.com address.  At this time it is NOT recommended that you
>obtain a new password since that also can be compromised.  Use a different
>mail account.
>
>3.  Owners of lists discussing sensitive material should know their
>subscribers private affairs are at risk of exposure.  If you run such a list,
>we recommend you set all hotmail.com subscribers to NOMAIL NOPOST.  You can do
>this easily with the command:
>
>   SET * NOMAIL NOPOST FOR *@hotmail.com
>
>The alternative is to HOLD your list, thereby freezing ALL mail activity for
>your list.  List Owners are best equipped to evaluate the nature of their
>list(s) and the risks and consequences of exposure for their own subscribers
>and then take action as they deem appropriate.  We strongly recommend you take
>some action to protect your subscribers during this period if you have any
>doubts about this.  Needless to say you should also let your subscribers know
>what is going on.
>
>--
> __________________________________________________________________
> Ben Parker . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . L-Soft international Inc.
> [log in to unmask]  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Support Engineer

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