All hope is not lost (yet). ASU has the archives but it is not in readable
form and will not be until the list is restored. And that can't happen
until I find two ASU faculty members willing to sponsor the list.
Apparently, my last sponsor left the university and gave the list to
someone else, who then had it deleted when she left, and I have no idea who
that was.

The only other alternative is having L-Soft host the list and I cannot
afford their prices.

​Anita Cohen​


On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 9:49 AM, Anita Cohen-Williams <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:

> Ben,
>
> So what you are telling me is that the entire archive of Histarch (1994 -
> 2016) is gone. Not only is that extremely upsetting, but I wonder if I
> really want to resurrect the list with another host and try again.
>
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> On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 8:42 AM, <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> Russell,
>>
>> What do you consider to be the "participation limitations of
>> GoogleGroups"?
>>
>> David
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: LISTSERV List Owners' Forum [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>> On Behalf Of Russell Hunt
>> Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2017 6:07 PM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: [LSTOWN-L] HISTARCH list has vanished completely
>>
>> A couple of reflections from a long-time, but not especially
>> knowledgable, listowner. I'm surprised about ASU here; my impression is
>> that they've been a pretty reliable host for academic lists for a long
>> time. On the other hand . . . many universities seem to have come to the
>> conclusion that listservs are, um, old hat, and expensive, when people
>> could use more trendy social media. That seems to me flat wrong, since in
>> general "social media" assume that if it's more than 24 hours old it's not
>> only forgettable, but hey presto! already forgotten. A substantial number
>> have decided, or are deciding, that LISTSERV is too expensive to justify
>> for the on-campus use it's getting. I've had to move one smallish group to
>> GoogleGroups, and I know of another academic listserv that had to do the
>> same because the host university dropped LISTSERV. The result has been that
>> discussion has been essentially extinguished by the participation
>> limitations of GoogleGroups. If you have to move this list off ASU, I wish
>> you luck looking for a suitable host: it's not going to be easy. LISTSERV
>> isn't, and shouldn't be, cheap.
>>
>>
>>
>> -- Russ
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>
>> From: LISTSERV List Owners' Forum [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>> On Behalf Of Charles Clausen
>>
>> Sent: February-16-17 3:46 PM
>>
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>
>> Subject: Re: HISTARCH list has vanished completely
>>
>>
>>
>> LSoft's ListPlex service, which provides hosting, is here:
>>
>>
>>
>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.lsof
>> t.com_products_listplex.asp&d=AwIGaQ&c=SgMrq23dbjbGX6e0ZsSHg
>> EZX6A4IAf1SO3AJ2bNrHlk&r=dOGCMY197NTNH1k_wcsrWS3_fxedKW4rpKJ
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>> Hs&s=t1OXd05zaQJwpcWPg0pQc3P6j2wJvuVLnVqEM2FADHU&e=
>>
>>
>>
>> This is for paying customers. Historically, they have donated hosting to
>> a few non-profit orgs (I don't know if they are still taking on new groups):
>>
>>
>>
>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__communit
>> y.lsoft.com_scripts_wa-2DLSOFTDONATIONS.exe-3FINDEX&
>> d=AwIGaQ&c=SgMrq23dbjbGX6e0ZsSHgEZX6A4IAf1SO3AJ2bNrHlk&r=dOG
>> CMY197NTNH1k_wcsrWS3_fxedKW4rpKJ8cHCD2L8&m=ebUT0_TcNv_
>> FD99fz0tu_Ul7B6smOSbedD9WRmTf3Hs&s=Y5t2pjivBhMeNb83l1a1ocZhM
>> MAstKWLAStOF2JrKU0&e=
>>
>>
>>
>> Not listed here is a group of cancer lists to which they donated services
>> back in 1996. The non-profit org under which they were organized has pretty
>> much dissolved over the years, but LSoft continues to host several of the
>> lists, some of which are very active.
>>
>>
>>
>> Charles Clausen
>>
>> ppml-info.org
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, 16 Feb 2017 09:21:25 -0700, Anita Cohen-Williams <
>> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> >In the meantime, if I can get the list back and all the archives, I
>>
>> >think I need to move it  to another host. Does L-Soft host lists?
>>
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