On Fri, Jan 26, 2001 at 01:59:54PM -0700, Ben Parker wrote:
>
> Yes, but then (since this is unix) the listserv-log file is not kept and this
> will be a very valuable tool in the debugging process.

Ah but if you do this the logs are captured just fine even when
running the process in the foreground, 'script && ./go'.  And in
another window 'tail -f typescript'.  Works like a charm. :)

> >The problem with bounced messages being sent to the sender is happening
> >on all lists, so yes I'm dealing with all the lists.  I have put myself
> >as POSTMASTER in go.user and added that email address with password to
> >the system, but I still haven't found that magical knob which controls
> >the behavior we're seeing.
>
> Maybe you should publish real example messages and full headers here instead of
> the fake ones which don't show enough to see the problem.

The problem appears to be either this person's MUA or MTA (and most
likely the former) adding the 'Errors-To:' header which Postfix on
the mailserver is taking as gospel when it needs to send out the
bounce messages.  Bottom line it doesn't appear to be a Listserv
problem at all but here's an example of a bounced message with full
headers.

>Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 10:26:26 -0600 (CST)
>From: [log in to unmask] (Mail Delivery System)
>Subject: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender
>To: [log in to unmask]
>MIME-Version: 1.0
>
>Content-Description: Notification
>Content-Type: text/plain
>
>This is the Postfix program at host mail.dogbark.com.
>
>I'm sorry to have to inform you that the message returned
>below could not be delivered to one or more destinations.
>
>For further assistance, please contact <[log in to unmask]>
>
>If you do so, please include this problem report. You can
>delete your own text from the message returned below.
>
>                       The Postfix program
>
><[log in to unmask]>: Name service error for domain
>smpt.hotmail.com: Host
>    not found
>
><[log in to unmask]>: host mx00.EARTHLINK.NET[207.217.120.28] said:
>550
>    <[log in to unmask]>... User unknown
>
><[log in to unmask]>: host renzo.EXACTLY.NET[63.192.36.58] said: 550
>    <[log in to unmask]>... User unknown
>
><[log in to unmask]>: host mx00.EARTHLINK.NET[207.217.120.28] said:
>550
>    <[log in to unmask]>... User unknown
>
><[log in to unmask]>: host world.EVANSVILLE.NET[204.120.16.2]
>said: 550
>    '<[log in to unmask]>' <[log in to unmask]> not matched:
>    (ERR_100) unknown user.
>
>
>Received: from spitz.dogbark.com (spitz.dogbark.com [207.234.88.179])
>       by mail.dogbark.com (Postfix) with ESMTP
>       id D55AC2F06F; Fri, 26 Jan 2001 10:24:57 -0600 (CST)
>Received: from PHOTONEWS.COM by PHOTONEWS.COM (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release
>1.8d)
>          with spool id 12482 for [log in to unmask]; Fri, 26 Jan
>          2001
>          10:24:55 -0600
>Delivered-To: [log in to unmask]
>Received: from repulse.cnchost.com (repulse.concentric.net
>[207.155.248.4]) by
>          mail.dogbark.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 160A82F065 for
>          <[log in to unmask]>; Fri, 26 Jan 2001 10:24:54 -0600
>          (CST)
>Received: from [216.112.174.187] (ts026d41.par-nj.concentric.net
>          [216.112.173.53]) by repulse.cnchost.com id KAA27889; Fri, 26
>          Jan
>          2001 10:18:43 -0500 (EST) [ConcentricHost SMTP Relay 1.10]
>Errors-To: <[log in to unmask]>
>X-Sender: [log in to unmask]
>Mime-Version: 1.0
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>Message-ID:  <v03130302b69736dc2086@[216.112.174.187]>
>Date:         Fri, 26 Jan 2001 09:26:38 -0500
>Reply-To: [log in to unmask]
>Sender: [log in to unmask]
>From: Joseph Pobereskin <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject:      Re: Digital charges/Manual Intervention
>To: [log in to unmask]