-- [ From: Huy Vu * EMC.Ver #2.5.02 ] --
 
Correct me if I am wrong (or if someone already suggested it (I might have
missed some posts)) because I've just jumped into this List stuff about 2
months ago, but I think there is a relatively (and you'll see why) simple
solution to the owner's error logs.
 
The solution would be to create another list (called Owner-List - OL for
short).  Where the list owner is the only subscriber(s) (hopefully no error
messages from this list and no advertising <grin>) and is receiving all the
posts/errors in a daily digest.  In it, the list owner can set the maximum
size of each post/error message to truncate those large error messages from
their original lists.  In the original lists just send all error messages to
OL to digest or if you don't want to see any listserv stuff make OL an owner
with the real owner as quiet (but of course this depends on your setup).
Then, you still will have to wade thru the emails in digest like in the
example of the person who originally brought this idea up, but you don't get
those one line summaries.  And if you don't like the idea of wading thru the
digest for errors and such you can set the time when the emails are
delivered so that hit you all at once (like a digest, but as separate
"entities"), and they can even be truncated too.
 
Okay, here's the relative part you've been waiting for.  Creating another
list requires another point ($$$$) which might be a relatively (there's that
word again) inexpensive investment that I'm sure Lsoft (or whatever other
mailing list company - I'm using Lsoft as an example because that's who I'm
familiar with) wouldn't mind (I'm not connected in any way to Lsoft besides
using Listserv).  If (big if) you look at the cost of another point over the
course of a year in the time you (hopefully) save it might look justifiable.
 Unfortunately, a lot of lists are run out of the pockets of the list owners
.  Of course, Lsoft could create a special max 3 or 5 subscriber point for
$10 to people who have already paid for "regular" points.  But this too
would require more coding, probably not more that bunch of conditional here
and there (sorry Eric) and unfortunately we are back to where we began.
 
Another problem might be if you oversee multiple lists.  Does it mean
multiple points if you want to see a digest for each list?  Possibly, unless
you set up a contraption for each list (only if you're best friends with the
mail administer) as a subtopic of the list.  Then you would set up a bunch
of mail aliases for you and the error to address(mail admin. old buddy) and
then somehow add the subtopic's name to the subject depending on the aliases
(not sure if possible but it involves your pal the mail admin).   However,
if you're going to go thru all this trouble you might as well try to find
out how the original list owner's digest was created.
 
I'm writing this because I see a lot of people asking for a feature that
previously wasn't in demand (therefore it wasn't put in) due to the lack of
the number of people using e-mail today versus 5 or 10 years ago.  Yes, I
would like to see a full featured (there's no need to be selective about
error messages) list owners utility, but I would also like to see a GUI on
this as well (I'm thinking of writing one - don't start another thread about
this).  I'm sure the people at Lsoft have considered putting this (as well
as the addition of more error decoding) on the list for the next version of
Listserv.  However, like anything else these things take time (you don't
want buggy software do you?), from deciding what it will entail to coding to
debugging.  But while you sit and wait the error messages still come in and
you've just read my possible "solution"(hey it's relative) to it.
 
Thanks for reading through this long post.
 
Huy Vu