I am wondering *flame on* just whose 'bright' idea it was to have
confirmation of subscriptions? *flame off*
 
Here's the real rub.  For a neophyte who is just beginning to learn, sending
the confirmation can be an arduous task.  For a pro, NO PROBLEM.  But my
normal method of subscribing to lists is:
 
sub xxx-l Bob Parks
set xxx-l digest
 
But with confirmation on, I have to 'reply' to the confirmation, I get  the
job  output saying that I am not signed onto xxx-l so can not use set xxx-l
digest.  Then I get the subscription, then I  send  the  set  xxx-l  digest
again,  and  then get another message back.
 
                      messages       messages
                      from me         to me
 
Without confirmation     1              2
With confirmation        3              6+
 
Supposing that say there are 4000 lists with say 5  new  subscriptions  per
day,  the  'confirm'  results  in  an  increased  network  load  of 120,000
messages.  Suppose that I am off by a factor of 100 -  that's  still  1,200
per  day, or 370,000+ messages per year (at least for those who want digest
which is what I recommend to all  neophytes).  If  I  am  not  off,  that's
37,000,000 extra messages per year.
 
Not only  that  but  the  standard  message  for  confirmation  makes  some
statements about high volume lists - standard message- blatant lie for most
lists which have 100-300 people after 6 months with maybe 5-10  messages  a
day.
 
A PLEA - turn this 'feature' off (or convince me with DATA that  it  was/is
needed).
 
Bob
 
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