On Thu, 25 Sep 1997, Pete Weiss wrote:

> Going to the MX host haleakala.aloha.net for aloha.net and issue SMTP
> comands produced:
>....
> 250 Justus Albert Muller <[log in to unmask]>
>....
   Thanks again Pete.  I contacted [log in to unmask] and abuse@aloha
and the only reply I received was from a Customer Service Rep for ALOHA
who apparently was the one who set up the forwarding to our Listserv.  I
guess they don't get much training.

I heard from the listserv postmaster at ASU this am and they took
[log in to unmask] off of all their lists.  I served the address off so
other listserv lists out there that this person was subscribed to will no
longer get our listserv errors distributed.  Initially, I thought it just
a local problem until I saw other mail coming in and listserv trying to
reply to other lists.

Below is the reply from Aloha (clarify: I said "the *act* was pure
stupidity/ignorance", but they took it personally.)

--Trish
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From [log in to unmask] Fri Sep 26 11:05:36 1997
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 1997 14:54:44 -1000 (HST)
From: Gary Viernes <[log in to unmask]>
To: Listserv Admin <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Aloha

I just did what the customer requested. If I'm stupid for doing my job
then I guess that that label fits me. I'm sorry that I couldn't be as
brilliant as you are. Sorry for the inconvience. In the future you should
really be more professional.(just a suggestion)

Mahalo,
Gary Viernes
Customer Service Rep.