When all was simple and straightforward, i.e. when files were still handled
by RSCS on BITNET/EARN and these new whizzy protocols like SMTP were only seen
in their Mailer version (BSMTP), I used to like E-mail on CMS.
You could even use the REAL IBM commands like RDRLIST to look at your mailbox,
because the filename and filetype, which Listserv and Mailer painstakingly put
in, were shown in the RDRLIST as <listname> MAIL.
Not so when files from a warm blooded Listserv distribution list maliciously
get coaxed into the Internet.
Then, between the familiar and lovely <listname> MAIL lines, ugly,
non-descriptive filenames appear, like below:
BILLING MAIL PUN M MAILER HDETUD1 NONE 48 08/15 13:49:44
ASM370 MAIL PUN M MAILER HDETUD1 NONE 33 08/17 16:36:33
hp4nl!hp MAIL PUN M MAILER HDETUD1 NONE 40 08/22 08:38:24
hp4nl!hp MAIL PUN M MAILER HDETUD1 NONE 32 08/22 22:40:46
Somewhere between the honest Listserv and my VM, Internet lurks. Internet
doesn't know about filename and filetype when transmitting a file by SMTP, and
after the mail comes out of Internet through a Un*x box, no one bothers to
put the filename filetype back into place. Instead, the nonsense source
address is put in, which looks like hp4nl!hp4nl.nluug.nl!.....!UCF1VM!PAGE-L
Someone (is it perhaps the mail abomonation on the VAX, PMDF ?) takes the least
significant part of the address, instead of the most significant piece.
This gets dumped into our laps because someone decided that domain type
addressing should be implemented, and that mail going to .tudelft.nl should
be forced through this Unix - VMS trap. Anytime you subscribe with your
domain address, you get yet one more source of the hp4nl%hp files.
I know I could be using MAIL and ignore the filename, but I use RDRLIST
because of its speed (hey, I also use Assembler for what its worth :-)
How do others get around this problem (or do they consider it a small price
to pay for TCP/IP hook up) ? Reactions ?
!!Received: from TUDRVA.TUDelft.NL by HDETUD1.TUDELFT.NL (Mailer R2.07) with
!! BSMTP id 0618; Wed, 22 Aug 90 08:38:23 MET
!!Received: from dutrun.uucp by TUDRVA.TUDelft.NL; Wed, 22 Aug 90 08:36 +0200
!!Received: by dutrun.uucp (5.57/1.10) id AA08336; Wed, 22 Aug 90 08:32:14 +020
!! (MET)
!!Received: from [132.170.240.20] by hp4nl.nluug.nl with SMTP id AA27905
!! (5.58.1.14/2.14); Wed, 22 Aug 90 07:53:18 MET
!!Received: from UCF1VM.CC.UCF.EDU by ucf1vm.cc.ucf.edu (IBM VM SMTP R1.2.2MX)
!! with BSMTP id 4754; Wed, 22 Aug 90 01:50:06 EDT
!!Received: from UCF1VM.BITNET by UCF1VM.CC.UCF.EDU (Mailer R2.07) with BSMTP i
!! 1288; Wed, 22 Aug 90 01:50:05 EDT
!!Date: Mon, 20 Aug 90 18:13:50 GMT
!!From: [log in to unmask]
!!Subject: Re: Code pages
!!Sender: IBM 3812/3820 Tips and Problems Discussion List <[log in to unmask]
!!To: Multiple recipients of list PAGE-L <[log in to unmask]>
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!!Comments: Warning -- original Sender: tag was NETNEWS@PSUVM
!!
!!In article <[log in to unmask]>, [log in to unmask] (Gerha
!!Rentschler) says:
!!>
!!>We are planning to use the country extended code pages for Austria/Germany.
!!
!!...
!!>................................... Can anybody tell me the name of
!!>the PSF/VM code page for the US which contains all the characters of
!!>the universal character set?
!!I'd be interested too, since the un*x type chars, right & left brace, grave
!!accent and tilde accent are only available with code page T1SKB103
!!which is "Keyboard 103: US Computer (ASCII)". What have I missed here?
!!Thanks
!!
!!Alan Thew
!!University of Liverpool Computer Laboratory
!!Bitnet/Earn: [log in to unmask] or QQ11%UK.AC.LIVERPOOL @ UKACRL
!!UUCP : ....!mcsun!ukc!liv!qq11 Voice: +44 51 794 3735
!!Internet : [log in to unmask] or QQ11%LIVERPOOL.AC.UK @ NSFNET-RELAY.AC.UK
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