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Kevin Parris <[log in to unmask]>
Wed, 4 Feb 2004 15:05:13 -0500
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Check the list header in question, and look for a line similar to this:

   Auto-delete= Yes,Semi-Auto,Delay(4),Max(100),Probe(3)

Then reference the documentation and set those parameters as needed to
suit your purposes and circumstances.  As illustrated above, a
subscriber will be automatically removed only if mail delivery to them
consistently fails every day for at least four consecutive days (or if
more than one hundred errors occur).

Also, encourage the list owner to pay attention to the contents of the
Daily Error report, so the problems can be identified sooner, instead of
later.

>>> [log in to unmask] 2/4/2004 11:48:09 AM >>>
I found out why the subscribers were removed. See below.
This means that if a mail server is down for any length of time you
have to reload address.
Is there a way to turn this off?

Tue, 3 Feb 2004 00:00:18

You have  been automatically  removed from the  SWCP-TAXATION-OUTPUT
list
(swcp-taxation-output)  as a  result of  repeated delivery  error
reports
from your  mail system. This  decision was  based on the  automatic
error
monitoring policy  in effect for the  list, and has not  been reviewed
or
otherwise confirmed  by a human  being. If  you receive this  message,
it
means that  something is wrong: while  you are obviously able  to
receive
mail, your mail system has been regularly reporting that your account
did
not exist, or that you were otherwise permanently unable to receive
mail.
Here is some information which may assist  you or your local help desk
in
determining the cause of the problem:

- The failing address is [log in to unmask]

- The first error was reported on 29 Jan 2004.

- Since then, a total of 4 delivery errors have been received.

- The last reported error was: 5.7.1 554 5.7.1 Command rejected

PLEASE DO NOT  IGNORE THIS MESSAGE. While you can  of course
re-subscribe
to the list, it is important for  you to report this problem to your
mail
administrator so that  it can be solved. This problem  is not specific
to
the SWCP-TAXATION-OUTPUT list,  and also affects your  private mail.
This
means  that YOU  HAVE PROBABLY  LOST SOME  PRIVATE MAIL  AS WELL.
Anyone
trying to  write to  you during  the same time  frame will  probably
have
received the  same errors for  the same reason.  The
SWCP-TAXATION-OUTPUT
list is  but one of the  many people who may  have tried to write  to
you
while your mail system was malfunctioning.

DO NOT LET TECHNICAL PEOPLE CONVINCE YOU THAT THIS IS NORMAL. It is
never
normal for a mail system to claim  that a valid, working account does
not
exist, just as it would not be  normal for the post office to return
some
of  your mail  with  "addressee  unknown" when  the  address was
written
correctly.  It is  true that  some mail  systems are  less reliable
than
others, and your technical people may be doing the best they can with
the
tools  they have.  But, ultimately,  the level  of service  that you
are
receiving is the result of a  business decision, and not something due
to
a universal technical limitation that  one can only accept. Reliable
mail
systems do exist, and  it is ultimately up to you  to decide whether
this
level of service is acceptable or not.






-----Original Message-----
From: Hiler, John
Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 12:15 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: losing subscribers.


We have had two lists that had subscribers now have none. Can anyone
tell me what is going on and why? The message below was sent to the
subscribers:
You have  been automatically  removed from the  SWCP-TAXATION-OUTPUT
list


John Hiler
W 513-229-1131
C  513-325-7572

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