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Eric Thomas <[log in to unmask]>
Fri, 17 Jul 1992 20:09:08 +0200
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Release 1.7d of LISTSERV will introduce support for the "nodename change"
tags (':oldnode.'  and ':newnode.'),  to make name  change, consolidation
(several small machines -> one big  machine) and deletion of nodes easier
for list owners.  What I have implemented does not  correspond exactly to
the formal specifications, for reasons you will understand later. Since I
don't  think these  tags  have  ever been  used  (read,  they have  never
appeared in BITEARN NODES as far as I know), it is not too late to update
the specifications. In any case, the NIC and NCC should definitely review
the verification rules they might have  for these tags and make sure that
a procedure  exists to prevent  abusive use. LISTSERV attempts  to detect
the obvious cases, but it can only go so far.
 
NEWTAGS DESCRIPT defines a ':oldnode.' tag which one may put in the entry
of  a node  which has  replaced,  or is  about  to replace,  the node  in
question. That  is, one would  code ':node.NEW :oldnode.OLD' to  tell the
world that node OLD  has become or is going to become  node NEW. OLD must
be a NJE nodeid, and may or may not be present in BITEARN NODES; if it is
present, it must contain a ':newnode.NEW' tag (see below).
 
LISTSERV  recognize the  ':oldnode.' tag  and accepts  more than  one old
nodeid. This is  necessary to make it possible to  merge several machines
into a  single node; I  would like the  specifications to be  extended to
allow this. If the "old node"  is not in BITEARN NODES, LISTSERV replaces
all  occurences  of the  old  node  with the  new  node  in mailing  list
subscriptions, AFD,  FUI and password files.  If the "old node"  is still
there but does not have a reciprocal ':newnode.' tag, or if several nodes
claim  the  same "old  node"  (which  the specifications  should  clearly
disallow),  LISTSERV throws  away the  entry  and Eric  Thomas posts  yet
another unprofessional message  to NODMGT-L, as this  should in principle
never happen.  If the old node  still exists and has  the reciprocal tag,
LISTSERV ignores it and only processes the ':newnode.' tag (see below).
 
NEWTAGS DESCRIPT defines a ':newnode.' tag which one puts in the entry of
a  node which  is going  to  be deleted  and  replaced with  the node  in
question. This must be  an NJE nodeid, it must exist and  there must be a
reciprocal ':oldnode.' tag in the entry in question.
 
LISTSERV accepts either an Internet hostname or a NJE nodeid in this tag.
In the case of a NJE  nodeid, the cross-verifications described above are
performed and the ill-worded message is  posted in case of failure, or if
more than one hostname is  specified. For Internet hostnames LISTSERV has
no way to  check anything, which is why the  NIC/NCC's should check these
tags  manually. LISTSERV  performs the  same one-time  change to  mailing
lists et al as described above and, in addition, automatically translates
the origin of  future incoming commands (and the parameters  to most list
owner commands),  in order to prevent  new entries with the  old nodename
from being added anywhere. This is  particularly important in the case of
Internet hostnames,  which will  not have the  opportunity to  go through
another "cleanup"  operation once the node  is deleted - the  new name is
not in BITEARN NODES and thus cannot have a ':oldnode.' tag.
 
LISTSERV ignores any ':internet.'  tag in the entry of a  NJE node with a
':newnode.' tag, in order to avoid internal complications. Theoretically,
LISTSERV could solve  these problems by internally moving the  tag to the
entry of the new  node. This however raises the issue  of what the proper
behaviour should be if the new node also has its own ':internet.' tag. In
practice, there are only two cases:
 
1. Node A is being renamed to  node B, same machine. The ':internet.' tag
   should be moved to  the entry of node B with the  update that adds the
   ':newnode.' tag; this has to be done sooner or later, anyway.
 
2. The  node is  going away,  or is being  merged into  a machine  with a
   different Internet  address. In that  case the ':internet.' tag  is no
   longer needed,  as all  records with  NJE nodenames  will be  gone and
   records with Internet  addresses will match directly;  there no longer
   is a NJE nodeid the users can send commands from.
 
IMPORTANT: This  is a BITNET node  deletion and renaming facility,  not a
"force all  users from  my node  to use Internet  addresses even  if they
don't want to because I say  so" facility. Once you place the ':newnode.'
tag in BITEARN NODES,  there is no way for users  to issue commands under
the old  address. There is  no point in cleaning  up all files  one month
before the deletion if you allow  users to re-add obsolete entries during
the month in question. If the new address is an NJE address, all requests
will be processed under that name,  and you have to consider whether this
is  acceptable in  case the  old and  new nodeids  are not  yet the  same
physical machine. If the new address is an Internet address, the users no
longer have an NJE address and have to use mail to order files and so on.
Think twice  before you  use that tag  for purposes it  was not  meant to
have.
 
  Eric

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