On Nov 18, 14:01, Eric Thomas wrote:
} Subject: Re: Message Status
} On Thu, 18 Nov 1993 13:00:57 -0500 "Tansin A. Darcos & Company"
} <[log in to unmask]> said:
 
} >If you have a problem, complain to [log in to unmask]; do
} >not punish  the readers or  potential readers of  a list because  of the
} >sins of the operator of the site.
 
} But Paul,  the problem is  that MCI says they  will not fix  the problem.
} They are not  interested in our complaints - we're  not customers, so why
} bother?
 
If you send mail with multiple recipients at MCI, the whole thing will
bounce if any one of the recipients can't receive mail for some reason.
And you can't even tell from the bounce which recipient it was.
 
When challenged, with references to where they violate explicit language
in RFC822 (and amending RFCs), MCI insists that they have the correct
behaviour, and refuse to fix it.  This dates back years.
 
They have their own ideas how mail should work, and won't let a trifling
thing like standards get in the way.
 
A number of the Internet mailing list operators have tried various
workarounds, and none of them have worked reliably.  Many of the larger
list owners have eventually abandoned all MCIMail recipients for just
this reason.
 
} To  me it  looks like  the only way  to make  them listen  to the
} complaint is to show them that they will lose business unless they become
} more reasonable. If MCI customers are  no longer able to access a mailing
} list,  they  will receive  reduced  service  from  MCI and  may  consider
} switching  to  a  competitor,  such  as AOL.  If  we  could  somehow  bar
} *@MCIMAIL.COM from  all mailing lists  for an  entire week, I  bet things
} would be fixed in no time with a long and formal apology.
 
Indeed.  MCI mail subscribers shouldn't be complaining to us, they should
be complaining to MCI.  We've tried complaining.  Didn't work.  Maybe
having real live customers complaining will.
 
--
Look on the bright side - at least the PC's reached gender parity!
 
Chris Lewis; [log in to unmask]; Phone: Canada 613 832-0541
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