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Jose Maria Blasco Comellas <ZCCBJBC@EB0UB011>
Wed, 08 Apr 87 03:14:04 HOE
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>Is there any reason why you can't  have lists with no subscribers? They could
>do all the notebooking  and file serving of archives as usual  but all of the
>subscribers would be on the original list  at Bitnic. Your list would note be
>listsed as a peer but only as a subscriber.
 
Of course it  could be done, but would  you really like it? First  of all, you
would get  your notebooks  from a  server and  send/receive mail  from another
server. Not  beeing an  official peer,  the redistribution  point will  not be
listed,  automatically reviewed,  etc, and  less  people will  know about  its
existence (this means more avoidable load on  the net). If the central node is
down, the list will  be blocked, while some mail could continue  to be sent if
the list was  peered. Distribute jobs will  tend to be quite  large, perhaps 5
times the  size of a normal  piece of mail  -- this can imply  some additional
delays if the net  is very loaded. People will have to send  mail to the other
end  of the  net,  and so  wait  much more  to  know if  their  mail has  been
processed. Since you'll  have tons of unofficial  redistribution lists, you'll
get a silly message saying that your  mail has been processed for each list --
a message that you'll  not be able to control, because  you'll not be directly
subscribed to that list...
 
All the preceding, assuming that, as you  say, the list is empty and only used
for notebook archival purposes. But this is usually not the case. For example,
approximately only one half of the LIAISON subscribers are directly subscribed
to BITNIC (146 over  274 -- note that the list was not  exploded because it is
not peered); there are 8 LISTSERV  redistribution lists and at least 8 private
non-listserv local lists more. This is a  fact, and as such needs to be faced.
Pretending that it does not exist  is ignoring reality; switching to mail-via=
distribute is good, but  what about the possible peers? (This  is for the NIC,
not for you, Scott).
 
LISTSERV was  designed as a  *distributed* server; PLEASE  don't go back  to a
centralized model.
 
Jose Maria
 
P.S. Someone has asked it: Mail-Via= Distribute can be used with peers without
problems.

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