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"BITNET list server at SIUCVMB (1.7f) <[log in to unmask]>" <[log in to unmask]>
Tue, 14 Sep 1993 10:57:27 CST
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We have been getting the following error for the last few days.
 
Does anyone know what I am supposed to do (if anything) to fix this?
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Adam Floro
Systems Programmer
Information Technology                     Phone:  (618) 453-6238
Southern Illinois University               Fax:    (618) 453-5261
Carbondale, IL 62901                       E-mail: [log in to unmask]
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From:         BITNET list server at SIUCVMB (1.7f) <[log in to unmask]>
Subject:      Problem processing mail file from [log in to unmask]
To:           "Roy E. Miller" <[log in to unmask]>
Error occurred while processing file 2848 from [log in to unmask]: "Mail has been
received for list DEAF-L from a user which has been served out". Because of its
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To: @VM42.CSO.UIUC.EDU,@VMD.CSO.UIUC.EDU:[log in to unmask]
Subject: mail warning
 
We have been unable to contact machine 'att-mh' to deliver mail you sent.
Our attempts to deliver your mail will continue for 6 more day(s).
No further action is required by you.
The following mail has not been delivered:
 
        att-mh!mail hogpa.ho.att.com!cynthia   (Date 09/10)
 
If you wish to kill the job, contact our administrator at
att!uucp and ask to kill UUCP job att-mhJe8d8.
 
Sincerely,
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From:         Sandra Barbosa <[log in to unmask]>
Organization: Boston University
Subject:      Re: options
To:           Multiple recipients of list DEAF-L
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: >The bottom line in the hearing world (and it's
: >terrible) but deaf=deaf.  Whether you talk, lipread, write or sign...you
: >are not hearing.  That's the bottom line.  Signing Deaf have no problem with
: >this since they accept their deafness and find pride in their culture.
: >That is why I mentioned self-esteem.
: >
 
 
This means that although one may work very hard at being oral, one is still
deaf.  There is a difference between being a Deaf person who signs within
their own culture and talks or mouths with hearing people, a Deaf person who
signs within their community and writes or gestures or uses an interpreter
with hearing people, and lastly a deaf person who is oral and refuses to
learn sign (for whatever reason) and tries to live a 'hearing' life.
 
In the eyes of a hearing 'man on the street'  these people are the same.  That
is what I meant.  A Deaf person (note the capital D) has no problem with this
since they accept their deafness and have pride in their culture.  Some/many/
most oralists do not find pride in their deafness and strive to be as
'hearing' as possible.
 
IMO someone who is content with their achievements and limitations has
greater self-esteem than someone who tries to be someone else.
 
I view Lew's choices like I view the choices that many children of immigrants
or very ethnic Americans make.  They grow up, move away from the ethnicity,
change their last name , take voice lessons to get rid of their
accent and dress and play Mr & Mrs. White yuppie.
 
That is their right.  I am not judging their decisions and choices.  I am
simply noting that they have made a conscious decision to become or try
to become like 'everybody else', the majority.  They do not find pride in
their 'uniqueness'.  That (IMO) is evidence of low self-esteem.
 
Is it possible to exist in America and be both ethnic AND mainstream??????
I do.  I have a rich Portuguese heritage that is part of my life although
I lead a typical white American life.  I have no trouble attending  a Red Sox
game on Saturday and having fun at the Feast of the Blessed Sacrament on
Sunday (the largest Portuguese festival in the country--US)
 
I will admit that as a teenager I was embarassed to be Portuguese.  This is
not a very loved race in the city I live.  But as an adult I rose above the
stereotypes and decided I didn't want to ignore part of my heritage due to
the ignorance of others.  I am who I am.  I am both ethnic and mainstream.
I don't want to be either extreme.
 
If someone denies who they really are by masking or hiding their 'ethnic'
identities, I do think it is a self esteem issue.  If someone tries to be
all that they can be, retaining, of course, who they are, while 'enhancing'
their life with other experiences..........great!!!
 
 
: What does this mean anyway?  I see this buzz word phrase (gospel?) "accept
: their/your deafness" and I do not understand it at all.
: Many people who are deaf and sign (signing deaf?) have also taken speech cl
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