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"Eric Thomas (CERN/L3)" <ERIC@LEPICS>
Thu, 11 Aug 88 16:28:21 GMT
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Some further tests  showed that 'DELETE *' still  generates unwanted messages,
although the situation HAS improved with  15N2. In particular, people who have
postmaster privilege from a REMOTE node  would get one error message per list,
and  the  same would  happen  to  people  who  specified an  invalid  personal
password, or to Joe  users who tried to delete people on  nodes for which they
don't have  NAD privilege. I  have made  a lot of  changes, and now  the nasty
messages should appear only once for all  the lists, instead of once per list,
and only  if there  was indeed  someone to delete  on the  list (ie  if you're
trying to delete X@Y from list XYZZY and he's not on, you won't be told you're
not the NAD for node Y). Now, this  has an obvious side-effect: if you want to
know which  lists X@Y is signed  on to, you just  do a DELETE *  [log in to unmask] For each
list he's  on, you'll get  some kind of error  message telling you  you're not
allowed to act on his behalf, or  something like this. There are only two ways
to avoid this:
 
1. Send the message for each list, regardless  of whether X@Y is on it or not,
   which  we have  already decided  we  don't want  to  do as  it's likely  to
   generate very large output.
 
2. Never send the message, which is of course unacceptable.
 
To solve  this problem, I have  decided to issue the  "complaint" message only
once per userid@node, and  to remove the listname from it.  This way, you will
get only one  message telling you you're  not a NAD for node  Y, regardless of
whether or not X@Y is on any list of the local server. Obvious drawbacks:
 
1. If you inadvertently send a DEL * X@Y (NETWIDE without being a NAD for node
   Y, you're going to  get 120 messages telling you you're not  a NAD for node
   Y. But if I issued the message only  if X@Y is on a local list, there would
   be a security  exposure as explained above. Note that  I cannot just remove
   X@Y from the list of people to delete, since you might be the owner of some
   list and thus DEL * X@Y should remove X@Y from this list.
 
2. It takes a  more CPU time, because some code which  would have been skipped
   if X@Y is not on the list must now be executed.
 
Does anybody want to try this new version out?
 
  Eric

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