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Eric Thomas <ERIC@FRECP11>
Tue, 23 Dec 1986 22:46 SET
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- I've just done a  PUT of PEERS NAMES to solve  Marty's problem with LISTTEST.
  Marty, the change file you sent was ok  but it does not take effect until the
  new version of the PEERS NAMES file is  stored back at all the servers in the
  vicinity of yours.  Transferring the jobs from the bit  bucket to LISTSERV is
  the proper procedure until everything is fixed. :-)
 
- I found  a bug in  the DISTRIBUTE PUT function  which makes it  impossible to
  distribute commands to  servers which have disabled  the DISTRIBUTE function.
  Granted, those servers  would NOT execute the command anyway  since they have
  disabled all  forms of DISTRIBUTE,  but "Sending  files to a  LISTSERV userid
  is prohibited"  is not precisely the  error message you would  expect. I have
  fixed this problem in my test 1.5g version.
 
- The CEARN  LISTSERV was  playing ping-pong  with [log in to unmask]  I've been
  able to  contact the author  of the latter  server and I'm  investigating the
  problem. I am afraid that more than 300 files have been piled up on
  MARTIN's reader and  that there are 300 less spoolids  available for RSCS :-(
  It seems  that RPRLSCI kept sending  commands to LISTSERV from  which it kept
  getting  replies, then  replying back,  etc. Since  the commands  were valid,
  the automatic-command-war  detector did not  suspend the culprit and  the war
  kept going on... :-(
 
- Local commands are  explained in LISTMAST MEMO. I guess  the configuration of
  the  LOCALCMD FILE  itself is  no  problem, the  big  thing is  to write  the
  command exec itself because there is  no doc about the LISTSERV routines that
  you will undoubtedly  need to use :-) However,  LSVTELL/LSVLTELL and LSVSENDF
  are pretty easy  to use and I'll  do my best to keep  upward compatibility on
  them. Add  LSVKEYWD & LSVMAIL/LSVIMAIL to  the list, too. The  other routines
  may change, though.
 
- I've found  another problem with the  CEARN server. I found  myself unable to
  review the stats for EARNTECH and LINKFAIL which are "Stats=
  Extended,Private" --  two lists to  which I am subscribed  and of which  I am
  an owner  besides... I am  even a  postmaster at CEARN  and it DARED  tell me
  I'm  not authorized  to review  the  stats!!! Did  any  of you  see this  bug
  occur on  another server? I'm surprised  because I haven't changed  the STATS
  code recently  and it seems  not to  have the bug  on my server.  Please note
  that Olivier is on vacations until the 12th of January.
 
- About the INCLUDE/DESCRIBE feature et al, a few points:
 
    1) The  length of  the headers  causes performance  degradations the  first
       time  a list  is referred  to,  but that's  all. The  keywords are  then
       extracted  from the  header, compiled,  and kept  in GLOBALV  variables.
       You  can't  expect  significant  performance  improvement  with  shorter
       headers, except on the first LIST command or suchlike.
 
    2) I originally wanted  to create a STOREHDR command that  would store only
       the HEADER of  a list. Since the  header is usually the same  at all the
       nodes  (there is  no problem  about  mentioning yourself  in the  PEERS=
       statement),  I thought  it would  make  list maintenance  a lot  easier.
       However I realized that there is a problem with the "Notebook="
       keyword which is  NOT the same everywhere, and maybe  there will be more
       such keywords in  the future (don't ask  me -- I see no  reason to claim
       there will never  be any other such keyword). A  possible solution would
       be not  to mention  those keywords  in the common  header (which  is the
       only  reasonable thing  to do  besides) and  have STOREHDR  replace only
       those lines that appear before  a given "separator" line (eg *%%%%%%%%%%
       %%%%%%%%%%%). The  installation  dependent   keywords  would  be  placed
       after  this separator  line.  Another possibility  would  be to  specify
       "blank"  keywords in  the common  list header,  eg "Notebook=  .", which
       would indicate that the  old value of the keyword is  to be placed there
       at the time the list is stored. Any comment/idea?
 
Well, back to the  3274s... I've just realized we had  a wonderful thing called
"user entry  assist" on the 3274s  but it was stupidly  disabled... It provides
*typematic*  delete key,  word-delete,  skip  to next/previous-word,  automatic
text adjustment  within left and  right margins  (but not justification  :-( ),
even when the insert  mode is active, a REAL backspace key  (but only in insert
mode)  and a  cursor position  indicator. Plus  programmed tabs  of course  but
XEDIT  can do  that already.  And I've  *eventually* found  out how  to disable
the "clic"  key at power on  :-) But there  does not seem  to be a way  to have
the PA1 and PA2  keys work without having to be  shifted, unfortunately. :-( Oh
well, I think we can live with it...
 
  Eric

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