BUT, not everyone is asking for money instead you 'only' need to
fulfill some of the prereqs... then you will be eligable for a
'free lunch' automatically.

a good example is the listserv-service managed for the Netherlands.
all you need, is to find someone in the Dutch University community
(not a student but a real working person ;-)) who is willing to
take the ownership of a list.
Within usually 2 to 4 days you will get your lunch (and i can promise,
it wont be a MCD ;-)

-ulrich-

p.s.: and i'm quiet confident, that this is the case also for other
      larger listserv-installations.

At 17:09 01.10.98 -0600, you wrote:
>At 04:36 PM 10/1/98 -0400, Eric Vogel wrote:
>>    $180 for 100 users a year is too much. I have 240+ and growing, all of a
>>sudden I just started getting a surge in subscribpsions. do you know of any
>>cheaper Hosts that provide ListServ?
>
>I continue to be amazed at all the people who think there is, or ought to
>be, a free lunch.  LSoft writes the software, so they don't even have to
>pay to use it.  So would it be likely that anyone who has to license it
>would be able to offer any sort of decent service at a LOWER price than
>LSoft can?   I'm not saying that no one does.....but I'll bet that it isn't
>both cheaper and better.
>
>If you want lousy service on a bad line and crappy software, go to one of
>the freebie places.  In this world you get what you pay for.  If you can't
>afford to pay, you can't afford to play.  The same rules pertain to
>hunting, camping, auto racing, traveling, and even drinking.  To quote one
>of the great American commentators of this century: "Wake up and smell the
>coffee!"
>
>cheers
>
>dan
>
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