On Tue, 29 Jun 1999, Stan Ryckman wrote:

> Well, Ben's terminology is a bit sloppy.  Senders (LISTSERV in this
> case) never set a Return-Path: header.  What happens (if I may strain
> an analogy a bit) is that email goes into an "envelope" which bears an
> envelope-sender and envelope-recipient (sometimes referred to as
> RFC821 headers, SMTP MAIL FROM and SMTP RCPT TO, or similiar terms --
> after the document and protocol which describe the envelope -- but I
> digress).  The errors-to address Ben refers to is the envelope-sender.

        Ah, thanks, that clarifies things perfectly...

> Since you mentioned pine, you may have a UNIX "mbox" mailbox.  Try
> just looking at it with "more" (and/or configure your pine to enable
> the "h" command to look at full headers) and you may well see a line
> that starts with "From " (no colon) just before the rest of the
> headers--with an address and a date/time.  This is another place the
> envelope sender is commonly stored (the date/time is that of receipt),
> and when it is thusly stored, it is rare that a Return-Path header
> would be added just to write the same information a second time.

        The ``full headers'' command does not display the ``From '' line.
I have to manually look at the actuall folder.

                                                        Jessica

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