On Thu, 2 Apr 2015 22:35:30 +0000 F J Kelley said:
>For an "announcements" list, you're right. We don't worry about those. However, for discussion lists, it is a different story. They were subscribed as "abc1234" but are trying to post as "my.name". And cannot for the very sensible reason that "my.name" is not a subscriber. I've been thinking that changing the Send= to "Public,Confirm,Non-Member" might provide a workaround to accommodate changing subscriber addresses, but that would add its own problems.
>I'm kind of coming to the opinion this cannot be solved with the listserver (although Liam's suggestion about LCMDX may play a part).
One thing I've done is leave the [log in to unmask] alone, and do a
quiet add with nomail option for the [log in to unmask] This way, both
addresses are on the list, the old standard will receive email, but both
can post. If someone changes [log in to unmask] to [log in to unmask]
they can't post from the new name until you update the list.
Depending on situation, I've also done it as a separate list that can post
using editor=(primarylist),(altneratelist) method
/ahw
>--Joe
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>From: LISTSERV Site Administrators' Forum <[log in to unmask]> on behalf of k p <[log in to unmask]>
>Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2015 5:08 PM
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: bulk operations "change"?
>First, I wonder if all that is actually necessary, since you say the
>original assigned address still works after student customization.
>What's the point of updating the LISTSERV system every time the students
>pick some new moniker for themselves (supposing that the
>machine-readable class rolls are all populated prior to customizing, so
>the faculty will always be subscribing the original ID)?
>All you actually need, in LISTSERV, is something that will get the
>messages to the student inbox - LISTSERV would not *have to* be updated
>unless a customized address is subscribed and gets re-customized. But
>in between the time of re-customizing and the time your update runs,
>there may be messages sent which the student will not receive. So
>perhaps it is more important to keep customized versions of the address
>OUT of LISTSERV, rather than work hard on getting them into it.
>But to address your question:
>Place the collection of change commands inside an "ok begin/end" block
>in the body of an email message, send that email from a Postmaster
>address to LISTSERV, then respond to the confirmation request it generates.
>The ok begin/end method is in section 15.7 of the manual here:
>http://www.lsoft.com/manuals/15.5/htmlhelp/site%20managers/SecurityFeaturesandFunctions.17.1.html
>On 4/2/2015 4:31 PM, F J Kelley wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Our mail system is MS Office 365. We assign incoming students an email
>> address in the form
>>
>> [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>>
>> The students may customize that address to something like
>> [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>>
>> (actually, they seem to test different versions of the address).
>>
>> All of this is fine. But. The Registrar's Office provides the original
>> ID assigned (in an Exchange environment, both addresses are proxies for
>> a real address; the students actually only "SendAs" whatever the
>> customized address is -- in Exchange terms, the "PrimarySMTPAddress". If
>> no customization, the originally assigned one is used), and faculty can
>> typically use a machine-readable version of the class roll to add
>> subscribers to their class discussion lists.
>>
>> I change the addresses as the students customize their addresses, but
>> the Registrar's Office will continue to use the original ID. I have a
>> powershell script to collect the Primary SMTP addresses for all list
>> subscribers (collected one list at a time from the list report on the
>> web). From that, I can build a file with all the "quiet change listname
>> old-address new-address" in it. Our listsever is on a Linux box and I
>> can paste the entire "change" file into pine and update all the
>> addresses via CJLI. Using the web, I can see how to issue a single
>> change at a time (List Management -> Command", but no way to process an
>> entire file of these. Or have I missed something (very, very possible).
>>
>> Yes, this is really clunky, for now it is what we have ...
>>
>> --Joe
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