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Eric Thomas <ERIC@FRECP11>
Sat, 13 Jun 1987 12:01 SET
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  I was  being ironical  of course.  This is  just unfeasible,  and it  is not
desirable either. Nobody would be willing to donate enough CPU time (on a FAST
CPU) and DASD space for this. Note that  they would also have to make sure the
server operates 24 hours, that the  computer is never stopped for maintenance,
that the  link is always  up, etc.  They would have  to allow just  anybody to
create any list for whatever purpose they  might want. Thus if one of my users
wants to create a list to discuss whether Marilyn Monroe's most pretty devices
was her legs or her eyes, they'd have to accept it. That is, they'd have to be
politically free, no  administrative constraint, etc. They would  also have to
be available  all the  time so  that you  don't wait  as long  for a  new list
creation than you have to wait for a reply from [log in to unmask]
 
  As each  archiving request would be  directed to this only  server, the node
housing it would  have to purchase a  dozen 50kb lines to  handle the traffic.
That is, yes,  people from France would  send their requests to  the USA since
there would be no place near France to ask for the files.
 
  The output of  a LIST LONG command  would be around 7,500 lines  or so. It's
already more than 2,500  at FINHUTC, and we'd have at  least thrice the number
of lists that we have there. A mere LIST command might return as many lines of
output as a  $DU command sent to  FRMOP22 (don't advise trying  it), and would
take 1 minutes of CPU (my 4381-11 units) to process.
 
  In case you're not aware of the load the major network servers are subjected
to: I went to DEARN in Easter to install the RFC822 stuff on its NETSERV for a
real-scale  test. NETSERV  there is  working  continuously. That  is, it  kept
receiving requests  about the same speed  it could process them.  It took more
than 5 minutes  before we could stop  it. And that is only  for Germany. Okay,
LISTSERV is faster than NETSERV but  still... Building up a DISTRIBUTE job for
the 300+ recipients of a large list like MAILBOOK would take around 60 seconds
of 4381-11  processor time. That is,  requests would be coming  in faster than
they could be processed on my machine.  A 3090 could easily do it but LISTSERV
is not what it's been purchased for, huh?
 
  When the PEERS  FILELIST stuff is operational, it will  be possible for each
server to  know the locations where  the major network-wide lists  are housed,
and  to forward  SUBSCRIBE requests  to the  appropriate server.  And I  think
that's the way we should go. Most of this headache would not exist if we had a
serious LISTSERV GROUPS file...
 
  Eric

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