Thanks Kevin,

   I ammended the first template in question as you
 posted.

   In the second, there's already some info in there,
 so I'll wait to see what someone else might advise
 who's familiar with Version 15 changes.

   Thanks for the detailed help, and from everyone,, 
 even from a Blackberry.  Very much appreciated.

   Ron

   PS,, Christopher,, drive safe.
    
   
   

--- Kevin Parris <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> I'm still on 14.5 so I can't give you precise details for how it works
> on 15 but here is what I've had to do for some of our lists, and I
> suspect this material will be fairly close to what you find on your
> server.
> 
> Find the template "MSG_POSTING_REJECT_NOTAUTH" and make it look like
> this (all "dot codes" must be in column one of the actual template):
> 
>    - - template begins at next line - -
>  .TY &DATE &TIME &LISTNAME; auth-drop &FROMID; &MSGREF;
>  .* cancel the notification, reduce spam back-scatter
>  .QQ
> 
> You are not authorized to send mail to the &LISTNAME list from your
> &FROMID account. You might be authorized to post to the list from
> another
> of your accounts, or perhaps when using another mail program
> configured
> to use a different e-mail address, but LISTSERV has no way to
> associate
> this other account or address with yours. If you need assistance or if
> you have any questions regarding the policy of the &LISTNAME list,
> please contact the list owners at &OWNERS.
>    - - template ends above this line - -
> 
> What it means: the .TY directive creates (types) a log entry describing
> the discarded item; "auth-drop" is my own choice of a marker explaining
> why it was dropped; I make a log entry for the just-in-case situation
> where someone complains that their messages disappeared - at least I can
> find something to respond to them.  The dot-star is a comment line; .QQ
> tells the system to Quit without sending the response, which is the most
> important part.
> 
> Another template you may also need to update is
> "MSG_POSTING_REJECT_BAD_ATTACHMENT" with these three lines added at the
> top:
>  .TY &DATE &TIME &LISTNAME; attach-drop &FROMID; &MSGREF;
>  .* cancel the notification, reduce spam back-scatter
>  .QQ
> 
> And for some I have also adjusted the "MSG_POSTING_CONFIRM_SENDER" this
> way:
>    - - template begins at next line - -
>  .bb &NON_MEMBER = 1
>  To cut down on spam,
> 
>  .TY &DATE &TIME &LISTNAME; spam-drop &FROMID; &MSGREF;
>  .* cancel the confirm request, reduce spam back-scatter
>  .QQ
> 
>  .else
>  For security reasons,
>  .eb
>    - - template EXCERPT ends above this line - -
> 
> You should be able to match up the illustration above with the actual
> template on your system.
> 
> I have been doing this on a list-by-list basis, since we're only being
> pounded on a select few, but I suppose if you make these edits on the
> site-level templates you don't have to do it to each one - I have no
> idea how many you are dealing with.
> 
> And a tangentially related observation: ask your hosting provider
> when/how they will implement a spam detector/filter facility on their
> service so that you don't have to deal with quite as much of the garbage
> that is arriving (I'm working on plugging in SpamAssassin on mine now).
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >>> [log in to unmask] 3/23/2007 11:44:47 PM >>>
>   I need an A, B, C, step by step guide.
> 
>   First of all, in the top menu I have,
> 
>   Server Administration, List Management,
> 
>   I'm sure it's got to be under one of these,
>   but which one?
> 
>   Ron
>