I'm actually running full-function LISTSERV 14.5 on VMS 7.3-2 with PMDF. While
we've been running a couple of large-by-our-standards (3k addresses)
announcement lists for years, we've just started (in the last couple of days)
using our LISTSERV for smaller lists which were formerly just pmdf aliases 
to .DIS files. 

These shouldn't be advertised globally, and we're trying to make the general
behavior as much like the previous behavior as possible, to surprise users as
little as possible.  One thing I've done, though, is add subject-Tag and
header to make lists easier for sorting.

There were no restrictions on posting to the alias lists - you didn't
have to be a subscriber to post, and it would be fatal to have that
restriction when the list is, eg, the list you write to when you have a
problem with your PC- but the lists weren't advertised to the outside so
didn't become spam targets.

I'm attempting to replicate that behavior by choosing Send= Public but 
Service= Local and Confidential= Service.  I think I succeeded in setting
Local to the slac.stanford.edu domain and anything in it with this entry in
system_config.dat:

! asked parameters
NODE\""
MYDOMAIN\""
LOCAL\"SLAC.STANFORD.EDU, *.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU"
TZONE\""


Anyway, I've had a couple of complaints from non-subscribers trying to post to
this particular list.  I don't know if I have a unique problem with this list
or whether would-be posters to other lists just haven't had the problem yet.


They get the message:

-------------------------------------------------------------------------
You  are  not  authorized  to  send  mail to  the  M$ACCOPS  list  from  your
[redacted]@SLAC.STANFORD.EDU account. You might be  authorized to post to the
list from another  of your accounts,  ...
-------------------------------------------------------------------------

In at least one case and possibly both, the posters were on laptops with
wireless connections and have to poke through a firewall to send mail.  I was
under the impression that the LOCAL domain name specified sender's domain as
specified in their FROM:; is it actually checking the originating IP address?

Anyway, here's the list header:


M$ACCOPS

* Ack= No * Service= Local * Confidential= Service * Validate= No * Reply-to=
Sender,Respect * Review= Service * Send= Public * Errors-To= Owner * Owner=
[redacted-address] (redacted name)
* Notebook= No * Subject-Tag = M$ACCOPS * Default-options=
SUBJecthdr,Repro,NoAck 
What am I doing wrong?  How can I get it to work so .slac.stanford.edu email
addresses can post even if not subscribed, but people in the general world
can't?

Thanks,

-- Alan


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