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John Lyon <[log in to unmask]>
Fri, 7 Nov 2003 12:50:56 -0500
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> I'm getting the following error messages for the FEMINAMAIL list that sent
> out the newsletter for what now turns out 8 times.  Could and invalid entry
> be the cause of multiple mailings?  How can I fix an invalid entry in the
> list?  I can't figure out where listserv is storing the lists email
> addresses.

The list header, subscribers and their settings are stored in
FEMINAMAIL.LIST  and you do have problems on the lines indicated.
You could use the backup copy (last used) by moving FEMINAMAIL.LIST from
the main (home) directory. Then rename FEMINAMAIL.OLDLIST to
FEMINAMAIL.LIST.

Another option would be to use the listview utility to convert the .LIST
file to text:

Stop LISTSERV
listview -h FEMINAMAIL.LIST > FEMINAMAIL.txt

Now edit FEMINAMAIL.txt  to correct those lines or just remove them. Now
rename FEMINAMAIL.txt  to  FEMINAMAIL.LIST
Start LISTSERV

This method is not recommend unless you know exactly what you are doing as
you could corrupt the list even more.

> Also, I'm not really sure how target-soft.com & gerstl-haustechnik.de would
> be able to actually post to the list because this is an announce only list.

By "reflecting" the message back to the list address so it is appearing to
come from the Editor. This happens if you fail to use CONFIRM.

I would place the list on HOLD and change this line to:
Send= Editor,Hold,Confirm

until you get everything fixed. Then FREE the list. Once freed, any posts
or "reflections" will go to the Editor/Moderator for approval, stopping
this loop.



> ERROR MESSAGES
> >>> LSWLSTGN: Invalid entry in FEMINAMAIL list, line 790
> >>> LSWLSTGN: data=
> >>> LSWLSTGN: Invalid entry in FEMINAMAIL list, line 855
> >>> LSWLSTGN: data=
> >>> LSWLSTGN: Invalid entry in FEMINAMAIL list, line 1067
> >>> LSWLSTGN: data=
> >>> LSWLSTGN: Invalid entry in FEMINAMAIL list, line 1068
> >>> LSWLSTGN: data=
> >>> LSWLSTGN: Invalid entry in FEMINAMAIL list, line 1077
> >>> LSWLSTGN: data=
> >>> LSWLSTGN: Invalid entry in FEMINAMAIL list, line 1078
> >>> LSWLSTGN: data=
> >>> LSWLSTGN: Invalid entry in FEMINAMAIL list, line 1079
> >>> LSWLSTGN: data=
> >>> LSWLSTGN: Invalid entry in FEMINAMAIL list, line 1080
> >>> LSWLSTGN: data=
> >>> LSWLSTGN: Invalid entry in FEMINAMAIL list, line 1081
> >>> LSWLSTGN: data=
> >>> LSWLSTGN: Invalid entry in FEMINAMAIL list, line 1082
> >>> LSWLSTGN: data=
> >>> LSWLSTGN: Invalid entry in FEMINAMAIL list, line 1083
> >>> LSWLSTGN: data=
> >>> LSWLSTGN: Invalid entry in FEMINAMAIL list, line 1084
> >>> LSWLSTGN: data=
> >>> LSWLSTGN: Invalid entry in FEMINAMAIL list, line 1085
> >>> LSWLSTGN: data=
> >>> LSWLSTGN: Invalid entry in FEMINAMAIL list, line 1086
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: LISTSERV give-and-take forum
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Valdis Kletnieks
> Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 2:29 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Same email going out 4 times
>
>
> On Fri, 07 Nov 2003 00:01:00 EST, Nelly Yusupova <[log in to unmask]>  said: >
> Hmmm...this is the header for one of the messages.  Why are there so many >
> Received lines?  Can someone explain how this header could be the reason
> the > newsletter went out multiple times?
>
> > Received: from mailout03.sul.t-online.com (mailout03.sul.t-online.com
> >           [194.25.134.81]) by echo.cgim.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
> >           hA6A0Jh06799 for <[log in to unmask]>; Thu, 6 Nov 2003
> >           05:00:19 -0500 (EST)
> > Received: from fwd07.aul.t-online.de by mailout03.sul.t-online.com with
> smtp
> > id
> >           1AHheJ-00065k-0M; Thu, 06 Nov 2003 11:45:59 +0100
> > Received: from target01.target-soft.com
> > (JT5fvBZ6gekbuVfexZx3ZJSpLV7mpWdRvK7BdqXZhnL4+O+Uvo9nYq@[80.131.155.14])
> by
> > fmrl07.sul.t-online.com with
> >           esmtp id 1AHheA-2Bomgq0; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 11:45:50 +0100
>
> It's looping.  Do you have the loop detector disabled, it SHOULD usually
> catch these.
>
> > Delivered-To: [log in to unmask]
> > Received: (qmail 15588 invoked by uid 110); 6 Nov 2003 10:35:49 -0000
> > Delivered-To: [log in to unmask] Received:
> > (qmail 15584 invoked from network); 6 Nov 2003 10:35:49 -0000
>
> Apparently, somebody at target-soft.com is doing something evil/stupid with
> the mail and reposting it.  But wait....
>
>
> > Received: from mailout04.sul.t-online.com (mailout04.sul.t-online.com
> >           [194.25.134.18]) by echo.cgim.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
> >           hA63gvh18595 for <[log in to unmask]>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003
> >           22:42:57 -0500 (EST)
> > Received: from fwd09.aul.t-online.de by mailout04.sul.t-online.com with
> smtp
> > id
> >           1AHbl5-0001Cw-00; Thu, 06 Nov 2003 05:28:35 +0100
> > Received: from gerstl1.gerstl-haustechnik.de
> >
> > (E2I-F6ZGgeAd9qt9MMdlm51uz7kEjPKSszL5PCAPVXFBBJAarKg96M@[217.228.219.48])
> by
> > fmrl09.sul.t-online.com with
> >           esmtp id 1AHbl3-1L32n20; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 05:28:33 +0100
> > thread-index: AcOkHm9XTGi2FHQ1QI61LfeHht3O0g==
> > Received: from mail pickup service by gerstl1.gerstl-haustechnik.de with
> >           Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 05:28:31 +0100
>
> Here's another loop - but THIS one was a gerstl-haustechnik.de recipient,
> but it ended up at a fwd*.auk.t-online.de machine again...
>
> If I didn't know better, I'd say you have 2 subscribers who are forwarding
> their mail, and t-online.de is intercepting the forwarding and then
> botching it.  The odd part is that in that failure mode, it *should* have
> gone into Sorceror's Apprentice mode (both subscriber's forwarding should
> have been trapped and sent back, causing 2 reposts, then both of those
> should have generated 2 more, an those 4 should have....).   I'm really
> confused why t-online.de did it 2 different times for 2 different
> subscribers.
>
> This is just too bizarre for me to decypher at 2:30AM (and that's saying a
> lot.. ;)

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