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On Thu, 30 Oct 1997, Peter Rauch wrote:
> On Thu, 30 Oct 1997, Judith Hopkins wrote:
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> > As spamming began to become a nuisance we changed to REVIEW =PRIVATE
> > but realized that that was not particularly effective as anyone
> > could subscribe, get the subscription list, and then unsubscribe.
> > So now we have REVIEW =OWNERS If anyone can persuade me that
> > he or she has a valid need for some subscription information I am
> > glad to provide it to them but I have rarely received such requests.
>
> Can I persuade you to define the list as:
> * Review= Private
> * Default-Options= Conceal
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> so that you leave the new subscriber protected from prying
> eyes, but leave with them the prerogative and responsibility
> to decide for themselves whether they wish to be a visible
> subscriber (to other subscribers of the list)? This way, you
> get to protect your subscribers, lacking any knowledge of
> their wishes to the contrary, but you relieve yourself on
> forcing them to continue to be "protected" if they do not
> wish to. Everyone wins.
Not everyone. I don't. I depend greatly on monthly printouts
of the subscription list to manage the Errors messages. While it
is possible to get printouts of all those with a specific option
such as CONCEAL that printout shows all settings for each subscriber
resulting in only 5-6 subscribers per page. With REVIEW I get one line
per subscriber or 60 lines (subscribers) per page. With a subscription
list of over 3,000 subscribers the total printout for October was 58
pages (29 sheets). The equivalent CONCEAL printout would be over
280 pages (140 sheets). With a computing center that is cutting back
on printing that is not a direction in which I care to go.
> If I do convince you to configure your list as above, then
> remember also to QUIET SET <listname> CONCEAL FOR *@* in
> order to initially conceal the subscriptions of all those
> who are already subscribed to your list (redefining the
> list's configuration will not change the SETtings of those
> already subscribed).
>
> And, finally, remember that it is only those subscribers who
> have not posted to your list who will have the option to
> remain concealed (if you keep archives accessible to
> subscribers or the public). Once they've posted, anyone with
> permission can GET the logfiles and derive subscriber
> userids from there.
> Peter R
>
As you point out, it is only the inactive subscribers who
would really be concealed (the archives are available to subscribers).
With either approach a determined individual could glean the
addresses of active participants. It therefore doesn't seem
worth the bother to change.
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Judith Hopkins, Listowner of Autocat
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http://www.acsu.buffalo.edu/~ulcjh
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