On Thursday, at 11:37, Melcir Erskine-Richmond <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:
> I am also a multiple co-owner of lists, many of which originated at a
> single South American (Brazilian) listserv and were later 'peered' to
> campuses in the USA (for the most part). Some time ago, the peer
> process was somehow broken, and now the several parts are separated
> and operating singly, while maintaining the original list descriptor
> and earlier versions of the co-owner listings. Initially, after setting
> in motion the descriptor, and in combing the nets for a co-owner, I
> was invited to set the lists up at BRUFPB.BITNET in Brazil, but then
> I was not given co-ownership. It took (true) 4 years to break throgh
> this error. I now have co-ownership, but not technical co-ownership.
> Efforts to redress the peer process seem to be failing (largely due
> to language barrier and the problem of distance, I suspect). In one
> instance, even the peer site was changed to another Listserver. Anyway
> the list which is so fragmented is AFRICA-L and efforts to straighten
> this out with the current co-owners and to bring up to date the
> ownership details, etc. fall into total silence and lack of reply
> from one site, and an inability to correct the situation from another.
> What can be done, please?
I have sent 'REVIEW AFRICA-L (LOCAL' commands to VTVM1, BROWNVM, and BFUFPB,
collected, edited, and collated the header-lines,
and eliminated the identical-at-all-three-hosts lines,
which leaves the following differences:
VTVM1 * Auto-Delete= Yes,Full-Auto
BRUFPB * Auto-Delete= Yes,Full-Auto
VTVM1 * Daily-Threshold= 65
VTVM1 * Digest= Yes,Same,Daily,23:59,Size(2000)
VTVM1 * Files= No
BROWNVM * Files= yes
BRUFPB * FILES= YES
BROWNVM * Formcheck= yes
BRUFPB * FORMCHECK= YES
VTVM1 * LoopCheck= Full
BROWNVM * Notify= no
BRUFPB * NOTIFY= NO
VTVM1 * Notify= Yes
VTVM1 * Owner= [log in to unmask] <Darrell A. Early>
VTVM1 * Owner= quiet:,paddy@vtvm1 (Darrell A. Early)
BRUFPB * OWNER= PADDY@VTVM2 (Darrell A. Early)
VTVM1 * Owner= quiet:,bestuur@vtvm1 (Darrell A. Early)
BROWNVM * Owner= BESTUUR@VTVM1 (Darrell A. Early)
BRUFPB * [log in to unmask] (Melcir Erskine-Richmond)
VTVM1 * Owner= quiet:,an700018@brownvm (Marilyn H. Fetterman)
BROWNVM * Owner= AN700018@BROWNVM (Marilyn H. Fetterman)
BRUFPB * OWNER= ST802213@BROWNVM (Victor Williams)
BROWNVM * Owner=REITORCN@BRUFPB (Carlos Fernando Nogueira)
BRUFPB * OWNER= rodrig@BRUFPB (Jose Rodrigues)
BRUFPB * PEERS= VTVM2,BROWNVM
BROWNVM * Peers= VTVM1,BRUFPB
VTVM1 * Renewal= 3-Monthly
BROWNVM * Reply-To= list,respect
BRUFPB * REPLY-TO= LIST,RESPECT
VTVM1 * Reply-To= Sender,Respect
VTVM1 * Review= Private
BROWNVM * Review= public
BRUFPB * REVIEW= PUBLIC
VTVM1 * Safe= Yes
VTVM1 * Send= Private
BROWNVM * Send= public
BRUFPB * SEND= PUBLIC
BRUFPB * STATS= EXTENDED,PRIVATE
VTVM1 * Stats= Normal,Private
BROWNVM * Stats= normal,private
VTVM1 * Subscription= Open
BROWNVM * Subscription= open
BRUFPB * SUBSCRIPTION= OPEN,Confirm
So, Melcir, if you really want to re-establish the "peering",
and since you "own" the AFRICA-L list at BRUFPB, I suggest that you:
- change that list to specify 'Files=NO',
- change the entry 'OWNER= PADDY@VTVM2 (Darrel A. Early)'
to 'Owner= PADDY@VTVM1 (Darrel A. Early)',
since the node 'VTVM2' is being phased out.
- change the entry 'PEERS= VTVM2,BROWNVM'
to 'Peers= VTVM1,BROWNVM',
for the same reason,
- add the ID 'AFRICA-L@VTVM1 Peer Distribution' as a subscriber,
(use the command 'QUIET ADDHERE AFRICA-L@VTVM1 Peer Distribution',
to avoid having LISTSERV "move" the subscription to one of the peers),
- send E-mail to 'Darrel A. Early'
<[log in to unmask]> or <BESTUUR@VTVM1> or <PADDY@VTVM1>,
and/or to 'Marilyn H. Fetterman' <[log in to unmask]>,
asking one of them to:
- add the line 'Peers= BROWNVM,BRUFPB'
to the list-definition for AFRICA-L at VTVM1,
- add your ID into the list of "owners" for the list,
- add the IDs 'AFRICA-L@BRUFPB Peer Distribution'
and 'AFRICA-L@BROWNVM Peer Distribution'
as subscribers to the 'AFRICA-L@VTVM1' mailing-list,
(using the 'QUIET ADDHERE' command),
- add the ID 'AFRICA-L@VTVM1 Peer Distribution'
as a subscriber to the 'AFRICA-L@VTVM1' mailing-list,
(using the 'QUIET ADDHERE' command),
in order to properly "link" the three peers.
(Remember, Marilyn and/or Darrell may be on vacation,
so don't be surprised if it takes a while.)
- Finally, note that about 25 subscribers have subscriptions at *MORE*
than one AFRICA-L node. Therefore, when the peering takes effect,
they'll start getting "duplicate" postings,
until one of their subscriptions is deleted.
When you become a "owner", you'll have to somehow deal with these IDs:
BROWNVM [log in to unmask] Axel Harneit-Sievers
VTVM1 [log in to unmask] Axel Harneit-Sievers
VTVM1 [log in to unmask] Achana Francis
BROWNVM [log in to unmask] Francis Achana
BROWNVM [log in to unmask] Antoinette Errante
VTVM1 [log in to unmask] Antoinette Errante
BROWNVM AFRICA_L@CLARKU Clark University's BB
VTVM1 [log in to unmask] Africa-L in Bulletin
BROWNVM [log in to unmask] Brown Local Dist.
VTVM1 [log in to unmask] Brown Local Dist.
BROWNVM [log in to unmask] Arthur R. McGee
VTVM1 [log in to unmask] Arthur R. McGee
BROWNVM AN700018@BROWNVM Marilyn H. Fetterman
VTVM1 AN700018@BROWNVM Marilyn H. Fetterman
BROWNVM [log in to unmask] Malik Baiyewu
VTVM1 [log in to unmask] Malik Baiyewu
BROWNVM [log in to unmask] D Bedell
VTVM1 [log in to unmask] D Bedell
VTVM1 [log in to unmask] Bruce Caldwell
VTVM1 [log in to unmask] Bruce Caldwell
BROWNVM [log in to unmask] Cliff Missen
VTVM1 [log in to unmask] Cliff Missen
BROWNVM [log in to unmask] Carol Taberski
VTVM1 [log in to unmask] Carol Taberski
BROWNVM [log in to unmask] Dr Francois D. Botha
VTVM1 [log in to unmask] Dr. Francois Botha
BROWNVM [log in to unmask] "Mwangi Nderebe"
VTVM1 [log in to unmask] Mwangi Nderebe
VTVM1 [log in to unmask] Greg Greenberg
VTVM1 [log in to unmask] Greg Greenberg
BROWNVM [log in to unmask] Sandra Hall
VTVM1 [log in to unmask] Sandra Hall
BROWNVM [log in to unmask] Henk J. van Hartingsveldt
VTVM1 [log in to unmask] Henk J. van Hartingsveldt
BROWNVM [log in to unmask] Hussein M. Haji
VTVM1 [log in to unmask] H. Haji
BROWNVM [log in to unmask] L. Kasanga South Africa
VTVM1 [log in to unmask] L. Kasanga Zaire
BROWNVM [log in to unmask] Mike Nico
VTVM1 [log in to unmask] Mike Nico
BROWNVM [log in to unmask] Philip King
VTVM1 [log in to unmask] Philip King
BROWNVM [log in to unmask] Robert E. Allison
VTVM1 [log in to unmask] Bob Allison
BROWNVM [log in to unmask] Alan Saul
VTVM1 [log in to unmask] Alan Saul
BROWNVM [log in to unmask] G. Thomasson Liberia
VTVM1 [log in to unmask] G. Thomasson Liberia
BROWNVM [log in to unmask] Paul T. Nyanga.
VTVM1 [log in to unmask] [log in to unmask] Goodson
Clear? :-)
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