Dear Douglas and LSTOWN Folks,

If I understand what Douglas is saying, it is well motivated and
at least partially incorrect:

 >You cannot determine who is or is not CONCEAL with a REV,
 >only the *number* of them, if any.  That is why I ignored what
 >you said about identifying CONCEALed subscribers with a REV;
 >REV does not show the subscription status.

Not So

As  Francoise Becker <[log in to unmask]> already
mentioned in this thread,

 >Note that if you use the (ALL qualifier on your REVIEW command,
 >then you will see all subscribers, even the CONCEALed ones.
\...\
 >For example:
 >REVIEW listname (ALL NOH
 >
 >It even points out which ones are concealed.
 >
 >If you want to get ONLY the addresses that are concealed, you
 >have to use the QUERY command as has already been pointed
 >out.

The results of REVIEW (ALL NOH command look ordinary, except that
all concealed members show up like this:

********@AOL.COM                  Firstname J Lastname [concealed]

As Douglas notes, the total number of concealed members is also
shown at the end of the REVIEW results:

* Total number of "concealed" subscribers:           1
* Total number of users subscribed to the list:    253
* Total number of countries represented:            16

How Come They Aren't Concealed?

Of course, if the subscriber uses "concealed" or even "[concealed]"
as their registered name with LISTSERV, that, in-and-of-itself
will not make that account concealed. (right?)

LISTSERV doesn't seem to mind having "[concealed]" at the
end of a registered name"

Date:         Mon, 4 Sep 2000 03:02:08 -0400
From: "L-Soft list server at St. John's University (1.8d)"
               <[log in to unmask]>
Subject:      You are now subscribed to the THYROID list
To: "Firstname Lastname [Concealed]" <[log in to unmask]>
Reply-To: [log in to unmask]

and

 > q thyroid
Subscription options for "Firstname Lastname [Concealed]"
<[log in to unmask]>, list THYROID:

MAIL           You are sent individual postings as they are received
FULLHDR        Full (normal) mail headers
REPRO          You receive a copy of your own postings
ACK            Short e-mail acknowledgement of successfully processed
                postings
REVIEW         Your postings are forwarded to the list owner for approval

Subscription date: 4 Sep 2000

I hope this helps (IHTH).

  Pax,
Ballew Kinnaman <[log in to unmask]> 206/463-2322
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