Murph asked about the loop on MINI-AIR:
 
> What puzzles me is, if Marc is the only one empowered to distribute mail to
> the list, then howcome the mail from the misconfigured daemon at Alaska.Edu
> got posted?
 
I can answer that.  The rejection notice from Alaska included the
From: line with the editor's address in its header.
 
The KIDLINK list also got rejection notices from Alaska.edu
Fortunately, in our case, the messages did not cause a loop--they
were caught because "postmaster" is served out.
 
I've attached the complete header below.  Here are the key lines:
 
> From: Odd de Presno <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Hebrew on KIDLINK
> Sender: Non-delivery Notification <[log in to unmask]>
> To: "Org.To IMCC2" <[log in to unmask]>
 
Odd de Presno is one of the editors of this list.  We would have
had an infinte loop if the "served-out" mechanism had not caught
it.
 
I also wrote to [log in to unmask] and have received no
answer.
 
I also found the error message itself somewhat less than
perfectly clear:
 
> [Non-Deliverable:  Unable to create new message file IMCC2]
 
                          Peace,  Dan
 
<<  Daniel D. Wheeler          Internet:  [log in to unmask]  >>
<<  University of Cincinnati     Bitnet:  wheeler@ucbeh       >>
+++++++++++++++++++++++++< attachment >+++++++++++++++++++++++++
 
Error occurred while processing file 0756 from [log in to unmask]: "Mail has
been received for list KIDLINK from a user which has been served out".
 
------------------- Message causing the problem (75 lines) --------------------
Return-Path: </R=TUNDRA/R=IN/R=ALASKA.EDU/U=POSTMASTER/UA-ID=UACN17.8274.00
 [log in to unmask]>
Received: from NDSUVM1 (NJE origin SMTP@NDSUVM1) by VM1.NODAK.EDU (LMail V1.2a
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Date: Mon, 15 Aug 1994 05:04:29 -0800
From: Odd de Presno <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Hebrew on KIDLINK
Sender: Non-delivery Notification <[log in to unmask]>
To: "Org.To IMCC2" <[log in to unmask]>
Reply-to: KIDLINK Project List <[log in to unmask]>
Message-id: <[log in to unmask]>
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X400-MTS-identifier: [;92405051804991/256246@TUNDRA]
Hop-count: 2
Comments: To: [log in to unmask]
 
[Non-Deliverable:  Unable to create new message file IMCC2]
 
Reply-To: [log in to unmask]
 
[ I've delected the messsage.  --Dan]