Ben,
So what you are telling me is that the entire archive of Histarch (1994 -
2016) is gone. Not only is that extremely upsetting, but I wonder if I
really want to resurrect the list with another host and try again.
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On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 8:42 AM, <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Russell,
>
> What do you consider to be the "participation limitations of GoogleGroups"?
>
> David
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: LISTSERV List Owners' Forum [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> On Behalf Of Russell Hunt
> Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2017 6:07 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [LSTOWN-L] HISTARCH list has vanished completely
>
> A couple of reflections from a long-time, but not especially knowledgable,
> listowner. I'm surprised about ASU here; my impression is that they've been
> a pretty reliable host for academic lists for a long time. On the other
> hand . . . many universities seem to have come to the conclusion that
> listservs are, um, old hat, and expensive, when people could use more
> trendy social media. That seems to me flat wrong, since in general "social
> media" assume that if it's more than 24 hours old it's not only
> forgettable, but hey presto! already forgotten. A substantial number have
> decided, or are deciding, that LISTSERV is too expensive to justify for the
> on-campus use it's getting. I've had to move one smallish group to
> GoogleGroups, and I know of another academic listserv that had to do the
> same because the host university dropped LISTSERV. The result has been that
> discussion has been essentially extinguished by the participation
> limitations of GoogleGroups. If you have to move this list off ASU, I wish
> you luck looking for a suitable host: it's not going to be easy. LISTSERV
> isn't, and shouldn't be, cheap.
>
>
>
> -- Russ
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: LISTSERV List Owners' Forum [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> On Behalf Of Charles Clausen
>
> Sent: February-16-17 3:46 PM
>
> To: [log in to unmask]
>
> Subject: Re: HISTARCH list has vanished completely
>
>
>
> LSoft's ListPlex service, which provides hosting, is here:
>
>
>
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.
> lsoft.com_products_listplex.asp&d=AwIGaQ&c=SgMrq23dbjbGX6e0ZsSHgEZX6A4IAf
> 1SO3AJ2bNrHlk&r=dOGCMY197NTNH1k_wcsrWS3_fxedKW4rpKJ8cHCD2L8&m=ebUT0_
> TcNv_FD99fz0tu_Ul7B6smOSbedD9WRmTf3Hs&s=t1OXd05zaQJwpcWPg0pQc3P6j2wJvu
> VLnVqEM2FADHU&e=
>
>
>
> This is for paying customers. Historically, they have donated hosting to a
> few non-profit orgs (I don't know if they are still taking on new groups):
>
>
>
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__
> community.lsoft.com_scripts_wa-2DLSOFTDONATIONS.exe-3FINDEX&d=AwIGaQ&c=
> SgMrq23dbjbGX6e0ZsSHgEZX6A4IAf1SO3AJ2bNrHlk&r=dOGCMY197NTNH1k_wcsrWS3_
> fxedKW4rpKJ8cHCD2L8&m=ebUT0_TcNv_FD99fz0tu_Ul7B6smOSbedD9WRmTf3Hs&s=
> Y5t2pjivBhMeNb83l1a1ocZhMMAstKWLAStOF2JrKU0&e=
>
>
>
> Not listed here is a group of cancer lists to which they donated services
> back in 1996. The non-profit org under which they were organized has pretty
> much dissolved over the years, but LSoft continues to host several of the
> lists, some of which are very active.
>
>
>
> Charles Clausen
>
> ppml-info.org
>
>
>
> On Thu, 16 Feb 2017 09:21:25 -0700, Anita Cohen-Williams <
> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
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>
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> >In the meantime, if I can get the list back and all the archives, I
>
> >think I need to move it to another host. Does L-Soft host lists?
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