"LISTSERV site administrators' forum" <[log in to unmask]> 
wrote on 03/29/2006 12:19:48 PM:

> Ok, but we don't use "Subscribe = ,confirm, because first of all the 
emails
> come from a website from example and stored in a database, I feed the 
email
> structure , email list to listserv so the people who is subscribing to 
our
> list don't really have to confirm they subscribed but they can 
unsubscribed
> anytime thought with another system. Also on the website we can always 
do a
> Regex validation who verify is the email address structure is valid but
> that's a front line validation only and it's have nothing to do with 
bounce
> really so I guess we have on our system to get these bounce email and 
clean
> our list. Thx for your time by the way, I really appreciate it. :) 

What's the address of this web form to sign up.  I have some *koff* *koff* 
"friends" that would like to sign up.

A form like this that does not send a confirmation email is an invitation 
for abuse.  Most legitimate e-mail marketers rely on confirmed opt-in. 
Even allowing too many requests for confirmation to be sent can get you 
tagged as a spammer. 

One thought that has been running through the back of my head is "What the 
hell do they have to say that 1 million people want to hear?"  Sounds 
rather spammish. 

Convince me I'm wrong.