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Eric Thomas <ERIC@FRECP11> |
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Tue, 2 Dec 1986 19:48 SET |
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I made the mistake of telling my users about GRAND. I should obviously not
have, considering that the user interface is obviously not suited to inexpert
users. I had a bunch of notes in my reader this morning... Look at what happens
when the lambda users invokes the CONFER exec...
confer
Unable to link the GRAND 191 system disk rc(12)
Leaving the CONFER Conferencing system.
R(00012); T=0.47/0.53 18:09:48
c 9
It should read: "You are not yet signed up to GRAND. Please send a SIGNUP
command to your nearest GRAND server, eg TELL GRAND AT CUNYVM SIGNUP Jack G.
Brown".
Now look at what happens when you issue a SIGNUP command:
*-------------*
FROM FRMOP11(GRAND): * Your SIGNUP command is forwarded to the primary...
FROM FRMOP11(GRAND): * server, which will process it
FROM CUNYVM(GRAND): * Raphaelle Gilaber, you have been signed-up to use...
FROM CUNYVM(GRAND): * GRAND. A GRAND PROFILE is being sent to you. Use...
FROM CUNYVM(GRAND): * the CMS "RECEIVE" command to load it to your A-disk....
FROM CUNYVM(GRAND): * Then use a GRAND user interface program ("CONFER",...
FROM CUNYVM(GRAND): * "GRAIL", etc.) appropriate for you.
FROM CUNYVM(GRAND): * sent profile of 103556 to 001905
PUN FILE 2787 FROM RSCS COPY 001 NOHOLD
File (3523) spooled to RAPHA -- ORG CUNYVM(GRAND) 12/02/86 19:57:24 G.M.T.
FROM FRMOP11(GRAND): * 103556 is now recorgnized by this server
FROM FRMOP11(GRAND): * You are now recognized by this server.
*-------------*
The beginning of the message is ok, although the paragraph is a little messy
and the tone is a little biblic ( :-) ). Now WHY do they tell you that the
profile of 103556 has been sent to 001905 (geez, good news!)? I guess 001905
is the GRID number of the FRMOP11 server. Then you have this self-explanatory
message, "103556 is now recorgnized (sp) by this server", followed by its
translation, "You have been recognized by this server". What would y'all say
if LISTSERV told you:
tell listserv at frecp11 rev lstsrv-l
R; T=0.02/0.03 12:34:21
FROM FRECP11(LISTSERV): File "LSTSRV-L FRECP11" has been sent in Netdata format
FROM FRECP11(LISTSERV): Request 28034673 has been sent to 002832.
FROM CLVM(LISTSERV): Request 28034673 from 002976 has been received by 002832.
FROM CLVM(LISTSERV): File "LSTSRV-L CLVM" has been sent in Netdata format.
FROM CLVM(LISTSERV): Request 28034673 from 002976 has been passed on to 003498.
etc
The more I get to learn about GRAND, the more I get the impression that it
was designed for people with a good CS and VM background, eg our CS students
here who did not scream at the SIGNUP output (although they did ask a few
questions). If CS students with at least 2 years experience in computers are
not able to get to use CONFER by themselves, then there is obviously something
wrong with the package.
Eric
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