Hi

This is a request for free list hosting for a discussion list on spam / net
abuse related issues among Indian ISPs / webhosts / freemail providers
(somewhat similar to the spam-l list - [log in to unmask])

I have already lined up several ISPs who are interested in participating.
Those who are upstream of Indian ISPs (or are otherwise interested in net
abuse / spam related issues pertraining to Indian ISPs) are welcome to join.

[please see below for my posts to some local lists, describing the new list]

I'd appreciate it if some kind soul on this list provides free hosting (the
list itself is expected to be fairly low bandwidth - about a 100 or so
subscribers, max, I expect).  I'd gladly pay except that CAUCE India is
something I and my buddies run on our own time, on a zero budget :)

Please cc me / mail me offlist on replies as I am currently set to nomail on
this list.

Thanks
-suresh

-Suresh Ramasubramanian
President, CAUCE India
[log in to unmask] / http://india.cauce.org
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From: Suresh Ramasubramanian
Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 14:04:23 +0530
To: India-GII, Cyberlaw-India
Cc: CAUCE India Comments
Subject: query: Is there any list specifically for Indian ISPs?
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Hi

This is further to a post I made on India-Gii ... and my first post on
Cyberlaw India.

A brief intro: I'm president of CAUCE India <http://www.india.cauce.org>, the
Indian chapter of one of the largest volunteer anti-spam organizations in the
world <http://www.cauce.org>

Right now, re several posts about curbing spam / cracking from Indian
servers, here's a short summary of the major problems:

1. Lack of concrete provisions in an ISP's "terms of service"

2. Lack of standard operating procedures to enforce these terms, even if the
appropriate clauses exist.

3. Absence of regularly monitored postmaster and abuse accounts (these are
required to exist and be monitored, as per several RFCs) - even in the case
of ISPs like VSNL

4. Lack of awareness of spam / cracking related issues among ISP helpdesk
personnel, leading to mishandled complaints.

5. Lack of security consciousness among several Indian ISPs, who run open
relay smtp servers (permitting unauthorized users to relay mail), unpatched
servers which are vulnerable to being cracked, etc.

There are, in fact, several lists where ISP systems administrators
participate (such as the linux lists) and others where ISP management
participates. However, there is no common list right now (such as the lists
hosted on isp-lists.isp-planet.com)

Thanks to Devdas Bhagat (who is an admin at Worldgatein.com, an ISP in
Gujarat - and a CAUCE India member) I plan to start a list called isp-india,
which will bring together admins / executives from ISPs and webhosts around
India and which will be aimed at addressing:

1. Inter-ISP cooperation / contact re these issues

2. Discussion of anti-spam / cracking policies of ISPs (not exactly govt
cyberlaws, which would be more within the purview of claw-in or gii)

I'd request those of you who represent ISPs / webhosts / email providers
here to give some feedback before I set this list up.

regards
--suresh

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