There's still nothing in 1.8e that allows you to insert
"Precedence: bulk", is there?

Apparently, OoO is a server-based rule in Exchange which
won't be triggered for messages with Precedence: bulk
(Exchange 2000 has also added "list").   I think it's
correct that Outlook 2000 now sends OoO messages to the
right place, but the problem still persists that mailing
list messages still trigger the OoO server-based rule.

Eva Kalman
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On Tue, 21 Aug 2001 10:22:29 -0400, Valdis Kletnieks
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>On Mon, 20 Aug 2001 14:41:12 EDT, "Wayne T. Smith" <[log in to unmask]>
said:
>
>> These two OoO problems are fairly easily addressed by LSoft  by
>> enabling list owners or site managers to distribute posts with the one
>> or two non-standard, but defacto standard e-mail headers (e.g.,
>> precedence bulk).  IMHO, standing behind the argument of "no official
>> standard", if that is LSoft's argument, is not in the best interests of
>> LISTSERV nor its standing among MLMs.
>
>Please note that some of the biggest OoO offenders *are* in violation of
>the RFCs - for instance, the ones that reply to Listserv directly are
>in violation of RFC821, which requires that you NOT reply to any mail
>sent with an SMTP 'MAIL FROM:<>' (which is how Listserv sends its
>administrivia mail).  Also, RFC1211 talks about owner- and and -request
>addresses in conjunction with mailing lists.
>
>The right solution is to send the offending users a note requesting that
>they use software that plays nice in the Internet community.  For what
>it's worth, I am told that the primary offender (Outlook) fixes most of
>the issues in Outlook 2000 (however, I have *NOT* personally verified
this).
>
>--
>                                Valdis Kletnieks
>                                Operating Systems Analyst
>                                Virginia Tech