On Mon, 20 Aug 2001 14:41:12 EDT, "Wayne T. Smith" <[log in to unmask]>  said:

> These two OoO problems are fairly easily addressed by LSoft  by
> enabling list owners or site managers to distribute posts with the one
> or two non-standard, but defacto standard e-mail headers (e.g.,
> precedence bulk).  IMHO, standing behind the argument of "no official
> standard", if that is LSoft's argument, is not in the best interests of
> LISTSERV nor its standing among MLMs.

Please note that some of the biggest OoO offenders *are* in violation of
the RFCs - for instance, the ones that reply to Listserv directly are
in violation of RFC821, which requires that you NOT reply to any mail
sent with an SMTP 'MAIL FROM:<>' (which is how Listserv sends its
administrivia mail).  Also, RFC1211 talks about owner- and and -request
addresses in conjunction with mailing lists.

The right solution is to send the offending users a note requesting that
they use software that plays nice in the Internet community.  For what
it's worth, I am told that the primary offender (Outlook) fixes most of
the issues in Outlook 2000 (however, I have *NOT* personally verified this).

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                                Valdis Kletnieks
                                Operating Systems Analyst
                                Virginia Tech