Perhaps we can try to clarify the use of terms - or at least the way I understand and use them anyway....  in my experience, when an owner uses the ADD command (without the Quiet option), the new subscriber is sent a *notification* that they have been placed on the list.  When the list subscription is Open,Confirm, and someone submits a SUBSCRIBE command, then they receive a *confirmation* message to which they must respond before actually being placed on the list.

I think it would be nice if the ADD command had an option to trigger the "confirmation" process rather than simply placing the user on the list and sending a notification.  For some lists being setup here, the owner wants to ADD everybody rather than sending out subscribe instructions, and sometimes their collections of email addresses have some inaccuracies - and as the LSMTP postmaster I wind up getting the delivery error reports.  Not a really great big huge deal, I suppose, since the owner gets a report too - but having only the confirmation item failing instead of all the list traffic (since some bad addresses don't 'fail' until the 5-day retry expires) would reduce the scope of my annoyance somewhat.

>>> [log in to unmask] 02/07/01 01:49PM >>>
James,

I've run the ADD command using

Subscription=Open,Confirm
Subscription=Open
Subscription=By Owner

Every time, I receive a confirmation message.  I took a look at the List
Owner's Manual and could not find any option to use to send cofirmations to
some subscribers yet none to others.

Am I way off the mark here?

-----Original Message-----
From: James Walker [mailto:[log in to unmask]] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 1:42 PM
To: [log in to unmask] 
Subject: Re: Forcing a confirmation email with SUBSCRIBE command


The question should have read ADD command.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: LISTSERV give-and-take forum
[mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Pete Weiss
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 1:37 PM
To: [log in to unmask] 
Subject: Re: Forcing a confirmation email with SUBSCRIBE command


Read the "Q" and then the "A" I'm a bit confused.  I believe the WEB
interface requires a emailed (to the supposed subscriber) CONFIRMATION
when a new subscription is entered regardless of the second operand of
the SUBSCRIPTION= keyword.

Or perhaps the question was "when a list-owner does an ADD, can it force
a confirmation?"  (answer: No).

/P

At 13:23 02/07/2001 Wednesday, Keller, Richard (CIT) wrote:
 >SUBSCRIPTION=Open,Confirm
 >
 >When a user subscribes to a list, this configuration will send a
 >confirmation to the address in the 'From' line of the email.
 >
 >-----Original Message-----
 >From: James Walker [mailto:[log in to unmask]] 
 >Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 1:21 PM
 >To: [log in to unmask] 
 >Subject: Forcing a confirmation email with SUBSCRIBE command
 >
 >
 >A confirmation message is sent when the list's configuration
 >has "SUBSCRIPTION = OPEN" and A=1 is passed as a query string to wa.exe.
Is
 >there a similar SUBSCRIBE command option that entered by the list owner
 >would send the confirmation message to the new subscriber?
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