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Brian Frederick <[log in to unmask]>
Mon, 19 Aug 1991 11:26:00 EST
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Hi there,
  Several of our local lists have recently started bouncing messages
from userid's like: [log in to unmask]  The stated reason is usually
"mail origin seems to be a mailer or mail-daemon."
 
This is the header of one offending posting:
>Date:     Tue,  6 Aug 1991 16:52 EDT
>Original_From:  NEIS::ALERT
>Comments: This is gatewayed mail.  Warning:  Mail may not
>          necessarily be returnable through this path.
>From:     General Delivery <POSTMASTER@USGSRESV>
>To:       SEISM-L@BINGVMB
>Original_To:  ISDRES::BITNET%"SEISM-L@BINGVMB"
 
A copy of the entire bounce is below.
 
The NODES INFO1 table shows USGSRESV to be a VAX/VMS machine belonging
to the US Geological Survey.  I telnetted to sri-nic.arpa and did a
quick whois on both USGSRESV and US Geological Survey with no result.
I sent to NetServ@PUCC for the Nodentry for USGSRESV and found the name of
their techinfo person and netop to be J Fisher (JFISHER@USGSRESV).
 
I debated writing this person, but decided not to when other lists started
getting ill w/ the same problem.  Some gateways (only on VAX/VMS machines so
far) make outgoing mail appear to listserv to be from the userid POSTMASTER.
I assume the problem is caused by a recent change to listserv which sniffs
out messages that looks like bounces.  A good change, by the way, no
critisism intended.
 
Having said all that, where do I go from here?   Is there some quick, easy
fix for this or must it be dealt with on a case by case basis?
 
Thank you kindly,
=brian
 
Brian Frederick - State University of New York at Binghamton - Computer Center
[log in to unmask] -or- [log in to unmask] (607)777-6127
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From:   Jnet%"FWU@BINGVMB"      "francis wu"  7-AUG-1991 09:40:19.58
To:     Francis Wu <[log in to unmask]>
CC:
Subj:   Delivery error notice sent to list SEISM-L
 
Received: From BINGVMB(MAILER) by BINGVAXA with Jnet id 9496
          for FREDERIC@BINGVAXA; Wed,  7 Aug 1991 09:40 EST
Received: by BINGVMB (Mailer R2.07) id 1787; Wed, 07 Aug 91 09:39:15 ECT
Resent-Date:  Wed, 07 Aug 91 09:39:00 ECT
Resent-From:  francis wu <FWU@BINGVMB>
Resent-To:    brian frederick <frederic@bingvaxa>
Received: by BINGVMB (Mailer R2.07) id 9438; Tue, 06 Aug 91 17:05:22 ECT
Date:         Tue, 6 Aug 1991 17:05:21 +0000
From:         Revised List Processor (1.7a) <[log in to unmask]>
Subject:      Delivery error notice sent to list SEISM-L
To:           Francis Wu <[log in to unmask]>
 
 
 
----------------------------Original message----------------------------
The enclosed mail file, found in the SEISM-L reader and shown under the spoolid
1010  in the  console log,  has been  identified as  a possible  delivery error
notice  for  the  following  reason:  mail  origin seems  to  be  a  mailer  or
mail-daemon.
 
------------------------- Message in error (27 lines) -------------------------
Date:     Tue,  6 Aug 1991 16:52 EDT
Original_From:  NEIS::ALERT
Comments: This is gatewayed mail.  Warning:  Mail may not
          necessarily be returnable through this path.
From:     General Delivery <POSTMASTER@USGSRESV>
To:       SEISM-L@BINGVMB
Original_To:  ISDRES::BITNET%"SEISM-L@BINGVMB"
 
 
U.S. DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR                          NO. 1-218
GEOLOGICAL SURVEY                                     AUG  6, 1991
NEIC QUICK EPICENTER DETERMINATIONS
 
UTC TIME    LAT     LONG    DEP GS MAGS  SD STA  REGION--COMMENTS
HRMNSEC                         MB  Msz     USED
 
JUL 30
045042.1  36.351N  28.365E  33N 4.1     1.0  16 DODECANESE ISLANDS
051605.3  30.043N 131.177E  33N 5.0     1.2  36 KYUSHU, JAPAN
093939.4  18.904N 145.200E 595D 5.0     0.9  30 MARIANA ISLANDS
143226.5s 30.249N 131.362E  53p 4.3     0.9  14 KYUSHU, JAPAN
143245.6s 60.746N 150.340W  31s         0.7   6 KENAI PEN, ALASKA.
                                                ML 2.8 (PMR).
161323.3  60.104N 147.841W  85s 3.8     1.3  15 S ALASKA. Felt
                                                (IV) at Seward.
222206.9p 30.49 N  94.84 E  33N 4.7     1.5  12 TIBET
golden co usa 1991 AUG 06 13:50

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