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"Kenny, Melissa S." <[log in to unmask]>
Fri, 6 Mar 2015 19:10:40 +0000
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A couple of years ago we started feeding our incoming Listserv mail through our IronPort spam appliances and that pretty much killed off this problem.  I guess any spam filtering engine will work but you need one in the same way you need one for your general e-mail server.



Melissa



From: LISTSERV Site Administrators' Forum [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Larry Finch

Sent: Friday, March 6, 2015 1:53 PM

To: [log in to unmask]

Subject: Re: [LSTSRV-L] requests to post sent to Editor



The problem with this, which we used several years ago, is that it opens you up to "bounce back" spam when the listserv sends a reject. A high volume of bounce backs gets you flagged as a spammer by many ISPs. That's the same issue as the non-member solution (which otherwise sounds elegant). At the peak we were rejecting 500 messages an hour.



That's why we started blocking at the postfix level.



Larry

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Larry Finch

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On Mar 6, 2015, at 1:23 PM, Greg Dietrich <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:

A number of our more active Announce Only lists (Send=Editor, Hold, Confirm, All) have been getting hammered since mid-January.



I think our solution is going to be a wholesale change from Editor to Owner (,Confirm) for all of our lists.  We’ve already unplugged most of the feedback LISTSERV gives to unauthorized users but the spammers have a long memory it seems.







Greg Dietrich

SCO ListServ Administrator

Office of the State Controller

(gdietrich) at [sco.ca.gov<mailto:[log in to unmask]>]









From: LISTSERV Site Administrators' Forum [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Nathan Brindle

Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 10:15 AM

To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>

Subject: Re: requests to post sent to Editor



If your real concern is non-members, and you would prefer not to moderate members’ posts at all, you should probably just use



Send= Private



Then non-member’s posts are simply rejected out of hand.



Nathan



From: LISTSERV Site Administrators' Forum [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of F J Kelley

Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 1:04 PM

To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>

Subject: Re: requests to post sent to Editor





​Thanks Nathan!







If my real concern were just non-members would







Send= Editor,Hold,Confirm,Non-Member



Send= (listname)







Would this allow members to post, but block non-members unless approved?















________________________________

From: LISTSERV Site Administrators' Forum <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> on behalf of Nathan Brindle <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>

Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 12:31 PM

To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>

Subject: Re: requests to post sent to Editor



Add “,Non-Member” to the Editor= setting.  E.g.,



Send= Editor,Hold,Confirm,Non-Member



Makes unsubscribed senders confirm their own messages before they are forwarded to the editor.  Note that you MUST also specify “,Confirm” with “,Non-Member” if it is not already specified.  That requires Editors to confirm their own postings as well, which is a feature every moderated list should utilize (IMHO).



http://www.lsoft.com/manuals/16.0/listkeyw.html#kSend



Nathan



From: LISTSERV Site Administrators' Forum [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Larry Finch

Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 12:09 PM

To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>

Subject: Re: requests to post sent to Editor



We implemented spam filters in postfix, which we could do because we control the Linux server in addition to listserv.



Best regards

Larry

Hmssurprise.org<http://Hmssurprise.org>



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Larry Finch

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On Mar 6, 2015, at 11:30 AM, F J Kelley <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:



​Hi,



We have seen a huge surge in spam directed to lists that are configured as



  Send= Editor ...







The editors can reject it, but it is becoming a flood.  How are others dealing with this?



--Joe



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